28 Nov
2006
28 Nov
'06
3:52 p.m.
Hi folks,
A complete IBM 1130 system just surfaced for sale in the midwestern
US. It is reputed to be one of the very first ones sold. It was used
by an architecture/engineering firm until a few years ago. It's an
impressive system: includes the CPU, external disk drives, 1403
printer, multiplex cabinet (interface for the disks and printer),
1442 card/read punch, 029 keypunch, documents and other stuff. We're
working getting more details. Buyer will have to arrange for pickup,
which will be a bit of a job as the machine is in a basement, and the
pieces weigh around 800 lbs each. (The multiplex box could weigh over
1000 lbs). We suspect that a stair crawler might be required.
We (we being Norm and Brian at ibm1130.org) don't know what the
seller expects to get for it. He's under pressure to get it sold and
moved within two weeks. This is a terrific system, but the pool of
interested people is fairly small, and the moving costs are going to
be considerable. (We would guess that the stair crawler alone will
cost $1500 or more to rent for the day, and trucking will cost
another $500 to 3500 depending on where in the US it goes -- overseas
would be much more). He's aware of this, and we hope that he's
realistic about it. We have an idea of what "realistic" might be and
could suggest what you might want to offer, if you want the advice.
If you're interested, contact Norm "at" ibm1130.org or contact me
directly, and we'll put you in touch with the seller. We'd really
like to see this system stay together and go to a person who's
interested in keeping it intact! We'd much rather see it go as a
whole package to a classiccmper than get pieced out on ebay.
Regards
Brian Knittel and Norm Aleks
28 Nov
28 Nov
5:24 p.m.
Well, I guess I'm interested. It sounds like a big chore in getting it though, but
I'm sure it would be worth it.
Bob
Brian Knittel <brian at quarterbyte.com> wrote: Hi folks,
A complete IBM 1130 system just surfaced for sale in the midwestern
US. It is reputed to be one of the very first ones sold. It was used
by an architecture/engineering firm until a few years ago. It's an
impressive system: includes the CPU, external disk drives, 1403
printer, multiplex cabinet (interface for the disks and printer),
1442 card/read punch, 029 keypunch, documents and other stuff. We're
working getting more details. Buyer will have to arrange for pickup,
which will be a bit of a job as the machine is in a basement, and the
pieces weigh around 800 lbs each. (The multiplex box could weigh over
1000 lbs). We suspect that a stair crawler might be required.
We (we being Norm and Brian at ibm1130.org) don't know what the
seller expects to get for it. He's under pressure to get it sold and
moved within two weeks. This is a terrific system, but the pool of
interested people is fairly small, and the moving costs are going to
be considerable. (We would guess that the stair crawler alone will
cost $1500 or more to rent for the day, and trucking will cost
another $500 to 3500 depending on where in the US it goes -- overseas
would be much more). He's aware of this, and we hope that he's
realistic about it. We have an idea of what "realistic" might be and
could suggest what you might want to offer, if you want the advice.
If you're interested, contact Norm "at" ibm1130.org or contact me
directly, and we'll put you in touch with the seller. We'd really
like to see this system stay together and go to a person who's
interested in keeping it intact! We'd much rather see it go as a
whole package to a classiccmper than get pieced out on ebay.
Regards
Brian Knittel and Norm Aleks
29 Nov
29 Nov
11:50 a.m.
New subject: Silent 700 Model 745 schematics
I'm still looking for a set of schematics for a TI Silent 700 Model 745
terminal, or the complete service manual if reasonably priced. Given that
the terminal only cost me $10, I'm not really interested in a $30 manual.
:-) Thanks for any pointers.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://ripsaw.cac.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
12:38 p.m.
New subject: Silent 700 Model 745 schematics
Mike Loewen wrote:
I'm still looking for a set of schematics for a TI Silent 700 Model
745 terminal, or the complete service manual if reasonably priced.
Given that the terminal only cost me $10, I'm not really interested in
a $30 manual. :-) Thanks for any pointers.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://ripsaw.cac.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/
Mike,
If you find even a $30 manual you will be lucky. I had a manual and may
hae one for some
of the Silent 700's i maintaned at the University of Southwester, La in
the 70's..
the bad news is that a lot of the parts are private labeled in them and
were not available then
other than by cannabilizing other terminals, or by hit and miss guesses
from the drawings as
to what parts did.
TI made them to be servicable by themselves, and used private internal
TI numbers that
were not publicly cross referenced.
So if you got a pile of the 745's you can get a manual and maybe make
one work, but
fixing one may be a bit of a problem.
jim
5:15 p.m.
The 1130 is now up on ebay with a $20,000 buy-it-now price.
Item number: 200053482851
Nice photos.
Bob
5 Dec
5 Dec
11:30 a.m.
Brian Knittel wrote:
A complete IBM 1130 system just surfaced for sale in
the midwestern
US. It is reputed to be one of the very first ones sold. It was used
by an architecture/engineering firm until a few years ago. It's an
impressive system: includes the CPU, external disk drives, 1403
printer, multiplex cabinet (interface for the disks and printer),
1442 card/read punch, 029 keypunch, documents and other stuff. We're
working getting more details. Buyer will have to arrange for pickup,
which will be a bit of a job as the machine is in a basement, and the
pieces weigh around 800 lbs each. (The multiplex box could weigh over
1000 lbs). We suspect that a stair crawler might be required.
We (we being Norm and Brian at ibm1130.org) don't know what the
seller expects to get for it. He's under pressure to get it sold and
moved within two weeks. This is a terrific system, but the pool of
interested people is fairly small, and the moving costs are going to
be considerable. (We would guess that the stair crawler alone will
cost $1500 or more to rent for the day, and trucking will cost
another $500 to 3500 depending on where in the US it goes -- overseas
would be much more). He's aware of this, and we hope that he's
realistic about it. We have an idea of what "realistic" might be and
could suggest what you might want to offer, if you want the advice.
ebay 200053482851 IBM 1130,1133,1403,1442,1627,2311,29 ORIGINAL SYSTEM
Ok, so it was neck and neck between 'luckyjavalina' (?) and 'shiresoft'
(Guy Sotomayor) until 'doctor_death' (?) came in at the end and snagged
it for $9200. Anybody know who 'doctor_death' happens to be? Pseudonym
for 'dkdkk' maybe :-) ?
Is this system going to end up in a museum, another basement, or going
to be parted out on ebay?
12:43 p.m.
Don wrote...
Ok, so it was neck and neck between
'luckyjavalina' (?) and 'shiresoft'
(Guy Sotomayor) until 'doctor_death' (?) came in at the end and snagged
it for $9200. Anybody know who 'doctor_death' happens to be? Pseudonym
for 'dkdkk' maybe :-) ?
Didn't 'doctor_death' only have a feedback rating of 11? For a $10K item, if
I was the seller, I'd be a bit concerned about that.
Jay
5:10 p.m.
The Luckyjavalina is, uh. me. I am pretty much into saving stuff for
history, looking at the art of mechanical things, enjoyment and later
musuems.
www.javalina.com
bob.
On 12/5/06, Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Don wrote...
Ok, so it was neck and neck between
'luckyjavalina' (?) and 'shiresoft'
(Guy Sotomayor) until 'doctor_death' (?) came in at the end and snagged
it for $9200. Anybody know who 'doctor_death' happens to be? Pseudonym
for 'dkdkk' maybe :-) ?
Didn't 'doctor_death' only have a feedback rating of 11? For a $10K item,
if
I was the seller, I'd be a bit concerned about that.
Jay
6 Dec
6 Dec
12:04 a.m.
Don North wrote:
Brian Knittel wrote:
I was (obviously) hoping to get it since an 1130 was the first computer
that I programmed professionally (in 1971). Because docs and software
for it are somewhat scarce, as part of the acquisition I wanted to lend
out the docs and media to make them available to the community at large
(which is what I try to do with the other docs and media I acquire).
Unfortunately, it looks like this will just fall into a "black hole". :-(
--
TTFN - Guy
A complete IBM 1130 system just surfaced for sale
in the midwestern
US. It is reputed to be one of the very first ones sold. It was used
by an architecture/engineering firm until a few years ago. It's an
impressive system: includes the CPU, external disk drives, 1403
printer, multiplex cabinet (interface for the disks and printer),
1442 card/read punch, 029 keypunch, documents and other stuff. We're
working getting more details. Buyer will have to arrange for pickup,
which will be a bit of a job as the machine is in a basement, and the
pieces weigh around 800 lbs each. (The multiplex box could weigh over
1000 lbs). We suspect that a stair crawler might be required.
We (we being Norm and Brian at ibm1130.org) don't know what the
seller expects to get for it. He's under pressure to get it sold and
moved within two weeks. This is a terrific system, but the pool of
interested people is fairly small, and the moving costs are going to
be considerable. (We would guess that the stair crawler alone will
cost $1500 or more to rent for the day, and trucking will cost
another $500 to 3500 depending on where in the US it goes -- overseas
would be much more). He's aware of this, and we hope that he's
realistic about it. We have an idea of what "realistic" might be and
could suggest what you might want to offer, if you want the advice.
ebay 200053482851 IBM 1130,1133,1403,1442,1627,2311,29 ORIGINAL SYSTEM
Ok, so it was neck and neck between 'luckyjavalina' (?) and 'shiresoft'
(Guy Sotomayor) until 'doctor_death' (?) came in at the end and snagged
it for $9200. Anybody know who 'doctor_death' happens to be? Pseudonym
for 'dkdkk' maybe :-) ?
Is this system going to end up in a museum, another basement, or going
to be parted out on ebay?
8:09 a.m.
Looks like Guy and I share some common interests; including british cars
(MGB'79, MGA'57). I wonder if 1130's leak oil?
On 12/6/06, Guy Sotomayor <ggs at shiresoft.com> wrote:
Don North wrote:
Brian Knittel wrote:
I was (obviously) hoping to get it since an 1130 was the first computer
that I programmed professionally (in 1971). Because docs and software
for it are somewhat scarce, as part of the acquisition I wanted to lend
out the docs and media to make them available to the community at large
(which is what I try to do with the other docs and media I acquire).
Unfortunately, it looks like this will just fall into a "black hole". :-(
--
TTFN - Guy
A complete IBM 1130 system just surfaced for sale
in the midwestern
US. It is reputed to be one of the very first ones sold. It was used
by an architecture/engineering firm until a few years ago. It's an
impressive system: includes the CPU, external disk drives, 1403
printer, multiplex cabinet (interface for the disks and printer),
1442 card/read punch, 029 keypunch, documents and other stuff. We're
working getting more details. Buyer will have to arrange for pickup,
which will be a bit of a job as the machine is in a basement, and the
pieces weigh around 800 lbs each. (The multiplex box could weigh over
1000 lbs). We suspect that a stair crawler might be required.
We (we being Norm and Brian at ibm1130.org) don't know what the
seller expects to get for it. He's under pressure to get it sold and
moved within two weeks. This is a terrific system, but the pool of
interested people is fairly small, and the moving costs are going to
be considerable. (We would guess that the stair crawler alone will
cost $1500 or more to rent for the day, and trucking will cost
another $500 to 3500 depending on where in the US it goes -- overseas
would be much more). He's aware of this, and we hope that he's
realistic about it. We have an idea of what "realistic" might be and
could suggest what you might want to offer, if you want the advice.
ebay 200053482851 IBM 1130,1133,1403,1442,1627,2311,29 ORIGINAL SYSTEM
Ok, so it was neck and neck between 'luckyjavalina' (?) and 'shiresoft'
(Guy Sotomayor) until 'doctor_death' (?) came in at the end and snagged
it for $9200. Anybody know who 'doctor_death' happens to be? Pseudonym
for 'dkdkk' maybe :-) ?
Is this system going to end up in a museum, another basement, or going
to be parted out on ebay?
10:11 a.m.
Tore Sinding Bekkedal wrote:
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 10:09 -0600, Robert Ollerton
wrote:
All I know is to TIE down your DRIVES -- they have
been known to walk out the door. :)
Looks like Guy and I share some common interests;
including british cars
(MGB'79, MGA'57). I wonder if 1130's leak oil?
Nah, you're thinking of the 7090. :)
-Tore
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