30 Apr
2002
30 Apr
'02
9:03 a.m.
Since it was cheap, I snagged an AppleVision
monitor/speaker combo today.
What systems will support it? I figure I'll find one eventually.
It's only a small risk at $3.95.
If it is one with the AppleVision plug (HDI-45, this kind of rectangular
plug with lots of pins in it), then only the 6100, 7100 and 8100 support
it directly IIRC.
However, there is an adaptor out there to break out the cable to its RGB
plug, mic, speaker, and ADB, so you can plug it into any of the other
Macs.
Also, the last series of AV monitors weren't true AppleVision monitors,
and only had the standard RGB plug, if you have one of those, than any
color mac EXCEPT the 6100, 7100, or 8100 should support it (those 3 will
support it IF they have the optional RGB card installed, or if you have
the HDI-45 to RGB pigtail).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
30 Apr
30 Apr
9:20 a.m.
You mean it'll work with the older mac's? It has a "normal" (for
MAC's) video
cable, and its model number is 1710AV. It has what appears to be
pass-through's for the mouse and for a mike, that funny thing that looks like
the USB symbol but isn't, and a couple of other thingies, but it's only a
16"
diagonal visible (not viewable) screen so I don't think it's supposed to be a
17", though you never know these days.
I'll have to run out and snag a cheap mac and see what it does. I saw a
Quadra 650 or something on that order for $5 earlier today. It had a part of
the front face missing, else I'd have probably looked inside.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <mythtech(a)mac.com>
To: "Classic Computer" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: APPLEVISION Monitor
Since it was
cheap, I snagged an AppleVision monitor/speaker combo today.
What systems will support it? I figure I'll find one eventually.
It's only a small risk at $3.95.
If it is one with the AppleVision plug (HDI-45, this kind of rectangular
plug with lots of pins in it), then only the 6100, 7100 and 8100 support
it directly IIRC.
However, there is an adaptor out there to break out the cable to its RGB
plug, mic, speaker, and ADB, so you can plug it into any of the other
Macs.
Also, the last series of AV monitors weren't true AppleVision monitors,
and only had the standard RGB plug, if you have one of those, than any
color mac EXCEPT the 6100, 7100, or 8100 should support it (those 3 will
support it IF they have the optional RGB card installed, or if you have
the HDI-45 to RGB pigtail).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
9:46 a.m.
Well, I went out and bought a Performa630CD just about like those that I gave
away earlier. This one didn't have the printer and monitor with it, but it
only cost $4 and it shows that this monitor does work, sort-of, but it's a
mite dim. When I adjust the brightness upward, it goes up for a moment, then
suddenly there's considerable pincushioning and the vertical dimension goes
down a mite, say 10%. When I adjust the pincushion, the pincushion goes away
immediately, though I've not adjusted anything, and the image size goes back
to what it was, but it's dim again. The brightness control is on the face of
the monitor, while the pincusion is adjusted in software. It's getting pretty
highly integrated when the monitor is adjusted by the computer. I've got to
say, I'm impressed with that little touch.
The Apple folks have had better "human engineering" than anybody else has,
over the years since the MAC's came out, but this is just about the extreme!
Any suggestions?
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <mythtech(a)mac.com>
To: "Classic Computer" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: APPLEVISION Monitor
Since it was
cheap, I snagged an AppleVision monitor/speaker combo today.
What systems will support it? I figure I'll find one eventually.
It's only a small risk at $3.95.
If it is one with the AppleVision plug (HDI-45, this kind of rectangular
plug with lots of pins in it), then only the 6100, 7100 and 8100 support
it directly IIRC.
However, there is an adaptor out there to break out the cable to its RGB
plug, mic, speaker, and ADB, so you can plug it into any of the other
Macs.
Also, the last series of AV monitors weren't true AppleVision monitors,
and only had the standard RGB plug, if you have one of those, than any
color mac EXCEPT the 6100, 7100, or 8100 should support it (those 3 will
support it IF they have the optional RGB card installed, or if you have
the HDI-45 to RGB pigtail).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
10:19 a.m.
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Richard Erlacher wrote:
Well, I went out and bought a Performa630CD just about
like those that I gave
away earlier. This one didn't have the printer and monitor with it, but it
only cost $4 and it shows that this monitor does work, sort-of, but it's a
mite dim. When I adjust the brightness upward, it goes up for a moment, then
suddenly there's considerable pincushioning and the vertical dimension goes
down a mite, say 10%. When I adjust the pincushion, the pincushion goes away
immediately, though I've not adjusted anything, and the image size goes back
to what it was, but it's dim again. The brightness control is on the face of
the monitor, while the pincusion is adjusted in software. It's getting pretty
highly integrated when the monitor is adjusted by the computer. I've got to
say, I'm impressed with that little touch.
The Apple folks have had better "human
engineering" than anybody else has,
over the years since the MAC's came out, but this is just about the extreme!
I agree. From a usability standpoint, the 1710AV was light-years
ahead of the rest of the market. Unfortunately, however...
Any suggestions?
...it had terrible QC problems. It's a tossup which was the less reliable
product: the 1710AV, or the PowerBook 5300. Check out some of the
you-had-to-be-there rants about this monitor in Google Groups
(comp.sys.macintosh.*)
ok
r.
10:42 a.m.
Well, I won't get too attached to it, then.
It's an impressive package, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised that there
are quality problems. Apple Computer Co. always impressed me as being
entirely too willing to compromise the quality of MY hardware/software, and
the security of my data, in favor of their profits. Did they ever come up
with a remedy for the problems? Is there a recall?
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "r. 'bear' stricklin" <red(a)bears.org>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: APPLEVISION Monitor
extreme!
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Richard Erlacher wrote:
> Well, I went out and bought a Performa630CD just about like those that I
gave
<snip>
say, I'm
impressed with that little touch.
> The Apple folks have had better "human engineering" than anybody else
has,
> over the years since the MAC's came out, but this is just about the
I agree. From a usability standpoint, the 1710AV was light-years
ahead of the rest of the market. Unfortunately, however...
Any suggestions?
...it had terrible QC problems. It's a tossup which was the less reliable
product: the 1710AV, or the PowerBook 5300. Check out some of the
you-had-to-be-there rants about this monitor in Google Groups
(comp.sys.macintosh.*)
ok
r.
11:57 a.m.
...it had terrible QC problems. It's a tossup which
was the less reliable
product: the 1710AV, or the PowerBook 5300. Check out some of the
you-had-to-be-there rants about this monitor in Google Groups
(comp.sys.macintosh.*)
As of last summer though Apple was still keeping it's promise
of repairing defective 5300's. Mine hadn't yet had the case repaired
and they replaced the whole outer casing under warranty, including
shipping both ways. Not bad service for a near 7 year old laptop.
Jeff
--
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.cchaven.com
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
2:48 p.m.
Very impressive indeed. Most PC product vendors don't even remember what was
made 7 years ago.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Hellige" <jhellige(a)earthlink.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: APPLEVISION Monitor
...it had
terrible QC problems. It's a tossup which was the less reliable
product: the 1710AV, or the PowerBook 5300. Check out some of the
you-had-to-be-there rants about this monitor in Google Groups
(comp.sys.macintosh.*)
As of last summer though Apple was still keeping it's promise
of repairing defective 5300's. Mine hadn't yet had the case repaired
and they replaced the whole outer casing under warranty, including
shipping both ways. Not bad service for a near 7 year old laptop.
Jeff
--
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.cchaven.com
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
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