OpenBSD, no. NetBSD, yes. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- "I'd love to go out with you, but I'm in perpetual denial." ----------------

I mean size of the install. Kernel-performance-wise, they're about the same, since the newer releases of NetBSD are becoming closer and closer to OpenBSD by design (particularly to take advantage of the security in OBSD). Of course, this differs from arch to arch. Maybe there's little difference between the two on Sun as far as install size there too. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Our policy is, when in doubt, do the right thing. -- R. L. Ash -------------

healyzh skrev: I had no problems with NetBSD/pmax on my 400 MB drive. I also run NetBSD/i386 on a 6MB system with two drives adding to 300 MB, one 100-megger for root and one 200 MB /usr. It certainly was a tight fit on the sole 100-megger. OTOH, I've never bothered with X on any of my systems. Besides, the NetBSD sysinst is a lot nice for setting the disk up than OpenBSD's installation tools, which are only slightly more friendly than disklabel, BSD fdisk et al. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. Alle meine Noten bringen mich nicht aus den N?ten, und ich schreibe noten ?berhaupt nur aus N?ten. --- Ludwig van Beethoven

healyzh skrev: Are you saying 16 MB is little? And I thoiught the over 4 MB demands of NetBSD was pushing it... Linux is a big heap of bloat. It seems every UNIX is, too. My definition of light-weight is floppy-based, sub-4 MB. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. Php/fi: The syntax does a very good job on combining the drawbacks of C with the disadvantages of Perl, in general resulting in a completely unreadable sequence of seemingly random characters. Therefor it became quite popular among Unix-fossils. -- README for the HTML preprocessor "hsc"

I've got a pair... running Solaris and SunOS 4.1.4 and NetBSD and OpenBSD.... and occasionally Linux. Bill -- bpechter(a)monmouth.com | FreeBSD since 1.0.2, Linux since 0.99.10 Brainbench MVP | Unix Sys Admin since Sys V/BSD 4.2 Unix Sys.Admin. | Windows System Administration: "Magical Misery Tour"

Thanks all. Looks like we'll see if we can do a BSD install. Biggest problem so far seems to be the 'virgin' drive. Gotta find a floppy disk sized formatter for it. Still open to suggestion! Jim

I just thought of something that will make the install a lot easier if you've got an existing UNIX box, a CD-burner, and a CD-ROM that does 512-byte blocks. I used this to make a bootable CD-ROM for my SparcBook 3GS (I toasted the Solaris 2.5.1 that was on it by installing Sun's Y2K patches). I used the following proceedure on my Sparc 20/712 running Solaris 2.6 and then copied the resulting image over to my Mac and burned it to CD-R. Worked great once I figured out how to boot it. Beware, the OpenBSD utility for setting up your disk is a royal pain. If you don't have the hardware/software to do this, you can also make a boot floppy or dd miniroot28.fs (I think that's the right one) to a second HD. Zane Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc OpenBSD Bootable Sparc CD-ROM How-To Many thanks are owed to the authors of mksunbootcd and the NetBSD Bootable CD-ROM HOWTO. (http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/bootcd.html#sparcimage) Step 1. Create an ISO out of the files you wish to include on the CD. The first disc I made was 79MB and included just the base packages, ports.tar.gz and some readme files. There is plenty of room to add 150MB of sparc packages, source tar balls, etc. mkisofs -o ~/obsd28sparc.iso -T -a -l -J -r -L \ -V "OpenBSD2.8_sparc" /mnt/cdrom/2.8/sparc Check the man page for mkisofs to see what all the switches do. For me it was important to select a couple of options so the disc would show up properly under Win2k; translation tables (-T) for lower case file names and a volume ID (-V). In case you're using an OS that doesn't already have mkisofs, it can be retrieved here: ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord/mkisofs/ Step 2. Retrieve a bootable floppy image of OpenBSD. At the time of this writing I used ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/2.8/sparc/floppy28.fs. Step 3. Compile and install mksunbootcd. This tool will allow you to append a sun disklabel and OpenBSD boot image to the ISO. You can find mksunbootcd here: ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/mksunbootcd/ Step 4. Create the final ISO. I used the following command: mksunbootcd obsd28sparc.iso floppy28.fs floppy28.fs floppy28.fs If you happen to have different boot images for sun4, sun4c, and sun4m architectures, you might use a command like this: mksunbootcd obsd28sparc.iso obsd-sun4.fs obsd-sun4c.fs obsd-sun4m.fs Be sure not to run this command more than once since it rewrites the ISO file. Once you have burned the ISO to a CD you should be able to run 'boot cdrom'. See the current INSTALL.sparc file for equivalent commands with different OpenBoot versions. Step 5. Contribute to the OpenBSD project. Every six months I try to buy at least one copy of the official CD-ROM and usually go crazy with t-shirt purchases. See http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html for more info.