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1999
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29 May
29 May
10:30 p.m.
On Sat, 29 May 1999, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
I'm trying to come up with as comprehensive a
history as possible of the
late, great Commodore Business Machines et subsidiaries etc. I think I've
I think what would be a great read would be the chronicalization of
Commodore before they got into computers, i.e. when they were an office
supply business. Is there any account of this on the internet anywhere?
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16 Aug
16 Aug
5:03 a.m.
New subject: Article on old software programs (for IBM, Apple, Borland, etc)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-08/16/026l-081699-idx.html
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7:37 a.m.
New subject: Article on old software programs (for IBM, Apple, Borland, etc)
from the ATM machine. I may have to transfer send some
money funds
to my IRA account. After that we can go to the movie theater cinema
and purchase buy some admission tickets. After we see the movie
production, we can go to a restaurant bistro and eat consume some
dinner food. We could get a nice container bottle of wine beverage.
Sorry to rant, but I'm in a bad mood.
7:26 p.m.
New subject: Article on old software programs (for IBM, Apple, Borland, etc)
Fortunately, the article does not use that horrid
phrase:
"Software Program"
AAARRRGGG!!!
Why don't we get in the automobile car and drive ride to the
financial institution bank. There we can get some cash currency
from the ATM machine.
... which you use your PIN number to access...
I may have to transfer send
some money funds
to my IRA account. After that we can go to the movie theater cinema
and purchase buy some admission tickets. After we see the movie
production, we can go to a restaurant bistro and eat consume some
dinner food. We could get a nice container bottle of wine beverage.
Sorry to rant, but I'm in a bad mood.
Don't worry, it was a very amusing rant.
I think "admission tickets" needs another word. Admission ticket stub
remnants?
-- Derek
11:53 a.m.
New subject: Article on old software programs (for IBM, Apple, Borland, etc)
To put it kindly, Victoria Shannon sounds like she is full of it.
Charles P. Hobbs wrote:
12:17 p.m.
New subject: Article on old software programs (for IBM, Apple, Borland, etc)
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, JAMES WEBSTER wrote:
To put it kindly, Victoria Shannon sounds like she is
full of it.
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-08/16/026l-081699-idx.html
Full of what, and in what way?
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1:54 p.m.
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Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, JAMES WEBSTER wrote:
Read about the last 2 paragraphs.
Jim Webster
To put it kindly, Victoria Shannon sounds like
she is full of it.
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-08/16/026l-081699-idx.html
Full of what, and in what way?
1:25 p.m.
New subject: Article on old software programs (for IBM, Apple, Borland, etc)
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, JAMES WEBSTER wrote:
Read about the last 2 paragraphs.
Here's the last four paragraphs:
There's also something called the Software Museum on a personal home page
in Amsterdam, but it just catalogues the names of disk contents and
doesn't provide the programs themselves. You'll need to be a hard-core fan
of nostalgia to enjoy it. Programs include IBM PC DOS 1.10, Microsoft
Multiplan 1.2 and Microsoft Word 1.1.
A couple of years ago, Sun Microsystems Inc. launched a "project rescue"
to issue software that would help keep 486 machines up to speed on the
Web. The idea was to sell speedy Java engines that could work on DOS
without Windows 3.1. But there appears to be little evidence of it today
on Sun's mammoth Web site.
There are also a few bricks-and-mortar retail stores that sell
out-of-print software; B&R Computer Services in San Diego is often
mentioned for Macs. Community computer user groups also tend to have a
selection.
It's real easy to get teary-eyed over this old stuff. But at the same
time, we shouldn't forget that a lot of programs have become historical
footnotes for a good reason -- they were dogs. If you go looking for them,
be discriminating.
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I still don't see what you're objecting to.
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7:30 p.m.
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On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, JAMES WEBSTER wrote:
Below is the email I sent to her.
Name 10 software packages that lacked substantial bugs, or did not break
within one or two generations of OS upgrades, whose companies are still in
business.
Those are your "failed" software companies. They made the critical mistake
of releasing good products. No major bugs, no "creative programming"
guaranteed to break with the next OS release. Dedicated people with good
ideas that had something solid by version 2.0 or so.
Now think about the most bug riddled, short lived software on the planet.
What a surprize those are the companies rolling in cash.
In 10 years people will look back at the 80s and 90s as a time of utter
insanity regarding computers. The first glimpse of the coming sanity is
that people are questioning what they are told, and going back and looking
for the classics of their time.
For me I am just having fun playing with my toys, be they old or new.
Cheers, Mike Ford
To put it kindly, Victoria Shannon sounds like
she is full of it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-08/16/026l-081699-idx.html
F
>ull of what, and in what way? 
2:13 p.m.
New subject: Article on old software programs (for IBM, Apple, Borland, etc)
To put it kindly, Victoria Shannon sounds like she is
full of it.
I do not see any problems with the article. If the last two paragraphs
bother you (the bit about lots of old software being dogs), well, its
true. A lot of the software for the older machines sucks. A lot of the
older machines themselves suck, too.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
17 Aug
17 Aug
2:56 a.m.
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At 04:53 PM 8/16/99 -0700, you wrote:
To put it kindly, Victoria Shannon sounds like she is
full of it.
I'm always comforted by articles like this. It helps me remember that
if I were in some kind of car accident and suffered mental or physical
injuries, I could always find a job as a writer who does nothing but
read other people's articles, does little to no bothersome research, and
regurgitates other people's stories. Or I could get a job in marketing
or PR, of course.
Someone should make a web site that tracks the flow of stories:
random techie submits something to Slashdot, Wired freelancer picks up
on it within the hour, appears on www.wired.com two hours later as
a peppy summary almost as long as text on the originally referenced
web page, followed by wire service reports re-chewed from the previous
"sources" if the news is big enough.
Yes, this is progress! Now, with the Web, I can read news stories
and then re-read them two or three times in traditional media, days later!
No one's mentioned that some of the old software she's talking about
is pirated, unless of course the copyright holders have actually
released it.
- John
3:02 a.m.
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No one's mentioned that some of the old software
she's talking about
is pirated, unless of course the copyright holders have actually
released it.
The Borland stuff was re-released by Borland, and is free, but they still
retain the copyright. The Mac site mentioned was just old shareware, if I
recall correctly . . .
6:26 a.m.
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On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Charles P. Hobbs wrote:
The Borland stuff was re-released by Borland, and is
free, but they still
retain the copyright. The Mac site mentioned was just old shareware, if I
recall correctly . . .
I tried the Broland site last night and it wanted me to create an account
and login. I don't have time to waste on that.
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6:45 a.m.
New subject: Article on old software programs (for IBM, Apple, Borland, etc)
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Charles P. Hobbs wrote:
Just push the "Anonymous" button. You'll get right in, not only to
download the old software, but read most of the other content on the site.
. .
The Borland stuff was re-released by Borland, and
is free, but they still
retain the copyright. The Mac site mentioned was just old shareware, if I
recall correctly . . .
I tried the Broland site last night and it wanted me to create an account
and login. I don't have time to waste on that.
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