27 Jun
2002
27 Jun
'02
4:55 p.m.
"Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink(a)verizon.net> wrote:
Basically, the ID in the PIII is disabled by all
standard BIOSs... AWARD,
etc. (although it can be enabled by software) and, in any Pentium 1.5GHz or
faster, there is no ID or supporting circuits in the silicon.
It's this "it can be enabled by software" bit that I was getting at.
As I remember it, there was a great hue and cry from privacy advocates,
Intel said "look, we'll make it disabled by default, and give people
software they can use to turn it on", and the privacy advocates said
"well, then, that's OK" and got quiet. Hello? If I can run some
software to enable ID reporting, why wouldn't any closed-source software
provider who really wants to know just have their software enable ID
reporting, get the ID, then restore/disable ID reporting to cover its
tracks?
Anyway, it looks like something did happen: it got little enough use
that Intel dropped the feature. Or...maybe they just see that
something even better for this purpose is coming.
-Frank McConnell
27 Jun
27 Jun
12:15 p.m.
On 27 Jun 2002, Frank McConnell wrote:
"Bill Sudbrink"
<wh.sudbrink(a)verizon.net> wrote:
Actually, the processor starts with the ID enabled on reset, and then has
to be disabled in software. Once disabled, you have to reset the
processor to re-enable it. This means that to enable the bit, you have to
be writing software that runs in ring 0 if you're using protected mode,
somthing easy for the OS, but hard for applications to do, unless it's
running under Winderz 3.1/95/98/ME.
Still, I don't like what's possible. It made the decision to get an AMD
Athlon all that much easier.
-- Pat
Basically, the ID in the PIII is disabled by all
standard BIOSs... AWARD,
etc. (although it can be enabled by software) and, in any Pentium 1.5GHz or
faster, there is no ID or supporting circuits in the silicon.
It's this "it can be enabled by software" bit that I was getting at.
As I remember it, there was a great hue and cry from privacy advocates,
Intel said "look, we'll make it disabled by default, and give people
software they can use to turn it on", and the privacy advocates said
"well, then, that's OK" and got quiet. Hello? If I can run some
software to enable ID reporting, why wouldn't any closed-source software
provider who really wants to know just have their software enable ID
reporting, get the ID, then restore/disable ID reporting to cover its
tracks?
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