26 Jul
1998
26 Jul
'98
11:39 a.m.
through my parents Record collection and found a record that is Moog mus
< It was something I was looking for, as it was so unusual that I remembe
< when my dad brought it home over 20 years ago.
<
< Anyway I was wondering if anyone knows anything about what kind of hardw
< was used for this?
Most of the early Moog work was done an ANALOG synths using multitrack
recording as most were not polytonic machines. Names of people who did
commercial work were Wendy Carlos, Iaso Tomita and Claude Denjean to name
some in my collection (Vinyl). The classic was Switched on Bach, Carlos.
Some had primitive sequencers but it would not be until the late 70s that
the computer->synth connection would start to really get out of the lab.
Allison
27 Jul
27 Jul
1:22 p.m.
Allison J Parent wrote:
through my parents Record collection and found a record that is Moog mus
< It was something I was looking for, as it was so unusual that I remembe
< when my dad brought it home over 20 years ago.
<
< Anyway I was wondering if anyone knows anything about what kind of hardw
< was used for this?
Most of the early Moog work was done an ANALOG synths using multitrack
recording as most were not polytonic machines. Names of people who did
commercial work were Wendy Carlos, Iaso Tomita and Claude Denjean to name
some in my collection (Vinyl). The classic was Switched on Bach, Carlos.
Some had primitive sequencers but it would not be until the late 70s that
the computer->synth connection would start to really get out of the lab.
I _think_ I've got the entire Wendy (nee Walter) Carlos collection in
vinyl, along with Tomita's magnificent work (that horrible coral pink
"Bermuda Triangle" disk with music that overcame the fact that you had
to look at the disk to put it on the turntable). I intend to pick up
a CR writer in the next few months and the main purpose is to transfer
material from vinyl and mylar -- its use as a computer peripheral is
secondary (though non-trivial, as I want to make solid archives of a
bunch of old Tandy software among other things).
--
Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/>
They say that politics makes strange bedfellows.
Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else.
Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_
1:54 p.m.
I intend to pick up
a CR writer in the next few months and the main purpose is to transfer
material from vinyl and mylar -- its use as a computer peripheral is
secondary
Why bother? All of that stuff is now on real CDs. In fact, I am always
amazed at what gets reissued, sometimes by the big media giants, but often
on independents. The last interesting reissue I saw (and was foolish
enough NOT to buy) was Roger Powell's "Air Pocket" (sort of early synth
guy, part of Rundgren's Utopia, general computer geek, now works at SGI).
OK, now to a classic computer - synthesizer link...
One of the many 25 cent junkbin LPs I purchased over the years, "Digital
Stimulation" by a 1980 California band called Units, contained a promo
glossy of the band posing in front of a true classic - a rather tired
looking DEC KA-10. I suppose at the time the photo was shot the machine
had logged a good ten years of service.
Another, "The Hacker" by ClockDva contains a very nice photo of one of the
Connection Machines, probably a CM-1.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
2:13 p.m.
Not all vinyl is out on CDs, btw. Some of the more rare stuff isn't, or has
been replaced by frankly inferior recordings. In some cases the original
artists are long dead and there's not a big market to dig up the original
master and make a CD.
If you plan to make many of these, a good cartrige is a must. I bought
an Ortofon x5mc - it has twice the frequency response of a CD. Cost around
$200 if memory serves from garage a records (www.garage-a-records.com)
but when I put one of my wife's immaculately kept records on it, the sound
was nothing short of incredible. Definately good stuff to source a CD with.
Yeah yeah, severely off topic, I know. :)
--
Jim Strickland
jim(a)calico.litterbox.com
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5:35 p.m.
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From: Ward Donald Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com>
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Subject: Re: The Moog
I _think_ I've got the entire Wendy (nee Walter)
Carlos collection in
vinyl, along with Tomita's magnificent work (that horrible coral pink
"Bermuda Triangle" disk with music that overcame the fact that you had
to look at the disk to put it on the turntable). I intend to pick up
a CR writer in the next few months and the main purpose is to transfer
material from vinyl and mylar -- its use as a computer peripheral is
secondary (though non-trivial, as I want to make solid archives of a
bunch of old Tandy software among other things).
--
Ward Griffiths <mailto:gram@cnct.com> <http://www.cnct.com/home/gram/>
They say that politics makes strange bedfellows.
Of course, the main reason they cuddle up is to screw somebody else.
Michael Flynn, _Rogue Star_
I, too, have the Bermuda Triangle LP, but if I remember correctly I have two
copies -- one pressed in pink vinyl and one pressed in blue.
BTW -- has anyone ever tried to decode the encoded message on that album?
I've always wanted to see what it said, but I always lacked the necessary
Tarbell cassette interface to read it.
As an aside, My personal favorite of the early synth years is Larry Fast and his
Synergy project.
Paul Braun
NerdWare -- The History of the PC and the Nerds who brought it to you.
nerdware(a)laidbak.com
www.laidbak.com/nerdware
28 Jul
28 Jul
4:09 p.m.
to look at the disk to put it on the turntable). I
intend to pick up
a CR writer in the next few months and the main purpose is to transfer
material from vinyl and mylar -- its use as a computer peripheral is
secondary (though non-trivial, as I want to make solid archives of a
bunch of old Tandy software among other things).
How do you plan to digitize the recordings in the first place? I'd like
to do that too, but soundcards are pretty lousy recording devices. I figure
it's a fundamental problem to have audio equipment sitting on a computer
bus. I'd really like to see an affordable external D/A/D box.
(ObClassic) is a NeXT any good at that?
--
4:40 p.m.
On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
(ObClassic) is a NeXT any good at that?
The audio input of a standard NeXT computer can only handle 8 bit audio at
a maximum of 11 kHz even though the output was "CD-quality" (I forget the
exact rate).
I can't seem to find the proper technical specification at the moment, but
you'll find this is the case.
There was a third-party product called "DigitalEars" that utilized the DSP
port and provided a fairly professional audio interface for NeXT
computers.
ok
r.
5:27 p.m.
On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
How do you plan to digitize the recordings in the
first place? I'd like
to do that too, but soundcards are pretty lousy recording devices. I figure
it's a fundamental problem to have audio equipment sitting on a computer
bus. I'd really like to see an affordable external D/A/D box.
I seem to recall seeing a digital input (optical?) on a SoundBlaster64
(probably with some suffix) recently. If this is the case, you could send
the audio into the analogue inputs of your DAT recorder (You do have one
of those, don't you?) put the recorder in pause/record, and take the
digital output of the DAT to the digital input of the SoundBlaster.
You could use an external A/D box, but I expect they would cost as much as
a DAT as they tend to be very high quality.
Alternately, you could use a professional-grade sound card such as Digital
Audio Labs' CardD. (But these aren't cheap either... unless they've gone
way down. The last one I sold was about $1000CDN.)
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