In a message dated 12/20/98 10:28:44 PM EST, ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk writes: << I am not going to be silly. I am not going to stick my fingers into a live mains socket, or use a machine tool when I'm not concentrating, or anything like that. But equally I'm not giving up the enjoyment I get from life because I could possibly have an accident and might therefore shorten my life. And for any lawyers here, I am quite prepared to take responsibility for my actions. If I do something wrong, then that's _my_ fault, right. Not the person who supplied whatever I happened to be using at the time. Not even if the whatever is defective - I should have taken the time to check. >> well you gotta remember, that's not how people think over here. it's always blame it on someone else. 8-\ passing the buck; the great american pasttime.