17 Sep
2007
17 Sep
'07
4:12 p.m.
On 17/09/2007, Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Golan Klinger wrote:
It actually got me wondering when apps started really pushing (or forcing)
functionality on users outside of their core reason for existing (such as a
web browser trying to be an email client, or an email client trying to be a
usenet client etc.)
I suspect that aspect *is* on topic :-) Netscape circa mid-90's is one of the
first culprits I can think of, but doubtless there were others long before
then? (Note I'm not talking about small bundled utility apps or functionality
which is related to the central purpose of an application - more the cases
where something that was recognised as doing one job suddenly branched out and
started offering something completely different)
How about that editor (or rater, originally a set of macros for an
editor) that implements a LISP interpreter, which can be an e-mail
client, news reader, ELIZA, ftp client, play tetris, be an IDE, etc,
etc...
Somewhat older that Netscape. Caused more flamewars, too. (Hope I'm
not starting one here!!!)
Joe.
17 Sep
17 Sep
6:02 p.m.
New subject: Apps with other functions, was: Re: Is there a way to post without a fee to newsgroups?
Joachim Thiemann wrote:
On 17/09/2007, Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk
at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Oooh, yeah...
That block of code would be a great OS if it had a decent text editor.
Doc
Golan Klinger wrote:
It actually got me wondering when apps started really pushing (or forcing)
functionality on users outside of their core reason for existing (such as a
web browser trying to be an email client, or an email client trying to be a
usenet client etc.)
I suspect that aspect *is* on topic :-) Netscape circa mid-90's is one of the
first culprits I can think of, but doubtless there were others long before
then? (Note I'm not talking about small bundled utility apps or functionality
which is related to the central purpose of an application - more the cases
where something that was recognised as doing one job suddenly branched out and
started offering something completely different)
How about that editor (or rater, originally a set of macros for an
editor) that implements a LISP interpreter, which can be an e-mail
client, news reader, ELIZA, ftp client, play tetris, be an IDE, etc,
etc...
Somewhat older that Netscape. Caused more flamewars, too. (Hope I'm
not starting one here!!!) 
9:59 p.m.
New subject: Apps with other functions, was: Re: Is there a way to post without a fee to newsgroups?
Doc Shipley wrote:
Am I on crack, or do I indeed remember someone having ported vi to emacs?
Peace... Sridhar
How about that
editor (or rater, originally a set of macros for an
editor) that implements a LISP interpreter, which can be an e-mail
client, news reader, ELIZA, ftp client, play tetris, be an IDE, etc,
etc...
Somewhat older that Netscape. Caused more flamewars, too. (Hope I'm
not starting one here!!!)
Oooh, yeah...
That block of code would be a great OS if it had a decent text editor. 
10:44 p.m.
New subject: Apps with other functions, was: Re: Is there a way to post without a fee to newsgroups?
Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Am I on crack, or do I indeed remember someone having ported vi to emacs?
Now how do you get out of vi.. That was my problem with Linux when
some script of default sent me there. Did Unix ( Original ) have
a screen editor other than vi? A nice little editor like 'T' under
DOS (PC) has spoiled me for a useful application program.
Peace... Sridhar
For TTY's a line editor is
I know is used.
Ben alias Woodelf
PS. All I know is the emacs install tar under Linux is very large.
(One who still has dial up)
18 Sep
18 Sep
2:24 a.m.
On Sep 17, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Am I on crack, or do I indeed remember someone having ported vi to
emacs?
Emacs has had several vi emulation modes for a very long time. At
least two of those are part of the standard distribution.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Farewell Ophelia, 9/22/1991 - 7/25/2007
How about that editor (or rater, originally a set of
macros for an
editor) that implements a LISP interpreter, which can be an e-mail
client, news reader, ELIZA, ftp client, play tetris, be an IDE, etc,
etc...
Somewhat older that Netscape. Caused more flamewars, too. (Hope
I'm
not starting one here!!!)
Oooh, yeah...
That block of code would be a great OS if it had a decent text
editor.
2:30 a.m.
New subject: Apps with other functions, was: Re: Is there a way to post without a fee to newsgroups?
Dave McGuire wrote:
On Sep 17, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Am I on crack, or do I indeed remember someone having ported vi to emacs?
Emacs has had several vi emulation modes for a very long time. At
least two of those are part of the standard distribution.
That's not what I meant. Someone had rewritten a basic vi in LISP and
ran it on emacs.
It was perverse.
Peace... Sridhar
How about that editor (or rater, originally a set of
macros for an
editor) that implements a LISP interpreter, which can be an e-mail
client, news reader, ELIZA, ftp client, play tetris, be an IDE, etc,
etc...
Somewhat older that Netscape. Caused more flamewars, too. (Hope I'm
not starting one here!!!)
Oooh, yeah...
That block of code would be a great OS if it had a decent text editor. 
17 Sep
17 Sep
7 p.m.
New subject: Apps with other functions,
How about that editor (or rater, originally a set of
macros for an
editor) that implements a LISP interpreter, which can be an e-mail
client, news reader, ELIZA, ftp client, play tetris, be an IDE, etc,
etc...
You mean the one that Eventually Malloc()s All Computer Storage?
-tony
8:26 p.m.
New subject: Apps with other functions,
--- Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I like that editor. Lots of fun commands for all -
Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift.
-Ian
How about that
editor (or rater, originally a set
of macros for an
editor) that implements a LISP interpreter, which
can be an e-mail
client, news reader, ELIZA, ftp client, play
tetris, be an IDE, etc,
etc...
You mean the one that Eventually Malloc()s All
Computer Storage?
10:11 p.m.
New subject: Apps with other functions,
Tony Duell wrote:
On startup?
Peace... Sridhar
How about that
editor (or rater, originally a set of macros for an
editor) that implements a LISP interpreter, which can be an e-mail
client, news reader, ELIZA, ftp client, play tetris, be an IDE, etc,
etc...
You mean the one that Eventually Malloc()s All Computer Storage? 
20 Sep
20 Sep
5:10 p.m.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 04:12:39PM -0400, Joachim Thiemann wrote:
How about that editor (or rater, originally a set of
macros for an
editor) that implements a LISP interpreter, which can be an e-mail
client, news reader, ELIZA, ftp client, play tetris, be an IDE, etc,
Indeed, it has almost everything but a good editor. Fortunately for
its users, it has Vi/m emulation. :-)
Cheers,
Angel
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