John Allain said: As far as I know, they're just a standard USB kb/mouse that conform to the USB HID spec. So, they should Just Work, as long as the PC in question supports USB input devices. Of course, YMMV :) - Dan Wright (dtwright(a)uiuc.edu) (http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright) -] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [- ``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.'' Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

Depends on what version of MacOS it's running. If it's OS 9 or lower, I suspect someone loaded a localized version of MacOS on it (i.e., no), but you can change this in OS X (it's under System Preferences). Just regular USB devices IIRC, although obviously if the Windows special keys are important to you ... :-P -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Eeny, Meeny, Jelly Beanie, the spirits are about to speak! -- Bullwinkle ---

Quothe James B. DiGriz, from writings of Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 01:55:35PM -0400: Yes, I know what you mean. If these new discussion groups each had some particular specialty, then I could see a reason why various classic computer collectors would use them. However, since they don't, I can't see the point in going through the extra work that it would take to access them. For one thing, web-based forums are a blasted nuisance to use. Browsers crash, and then an entire message is gone. If I can't use emacs, or some other text editor that's reasonably useful, such as vi, or even ed, then there's not much point to using a computer for writing. The multi-line text-area fields in forms on the 'web are nowhere near being a reasonable substitute for a good text editor. What's a PHB? Sounds like a nasty type of chemical to avoid. A good reason to avoid them. Is it just me, or does it give others the creeps when they see user agreements telling them that they can't have their first-ammendment guaranteed right to free speech on the 'net, whenever corporate droids, politically correct university bureaucrats and ambulance chasers (lawyers), etc. get involved with the 'net? -- Copyright (C) 2003 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

R. D. Davis wrote: If they shared articles/posts via RDF or XML feeds, that lessens the work, significantly. Pooling articles reduces exclusivity and to some extent individuality, of course, but at the cost of boosting the overall signal, promoting the development of communities of interest, etc. which benefits everyone in the long run. If the object is making money with the site, based strictly on the editorial content, then it's easy to imagine the interest of the site owner to be short-sighted here, though, or at least that's how the short-sighted will be expected to see it. I'd say that the much better overall content raises the floor for everyone, in most situations, and that site design, other features, relevance and value of associated advertising and merchandising, etc. will have more to do with the final profitability of the site, if that's the goal or justification. Compare IM, ICQ, or IRC vs. a purely local chat system for an equivalent effect on content. Browsers crashing is all many people know, however. All the marketing in the last 8 years or so is strictly for the 'net as Web. I prefer text myself for discussions, period, but hardly anyone is trained on a command line anymore, even at the college level. Actually this has it's advantages sometimes, like if you have to use the library's computer and need to work around CIPA mandated filters, etc. Usually it's just a matter of the proxy settings in Exploiter, access to which will typically be disabled. But as we all know, there is more than one way to skin a cat. If you want or need to raise the LCD, you have to make yourself accessible to it. It doesn't and needn't make older, more fundamental methods obsolete. Pointy-Haired Boss, as in "Dilbert". I didn't mean to knock lawyers or suits in general here. They're just the instruments of bad politics and absurd premises being taken to logical conclusions in this case. Don't shoot the messenger, in other words, though there are plenty who have put their hearts into it and have contributed to the absurdities and badness, especially when they end up in legislatures and on the bench. I should note that gating a web forum raises several spam-related issues, which a lot of people tend to get bent out of shape about. Also there is the matter of having to modify the actual body of an article if it includes advertising and/or html, when sending to mailing lists that forbid such, or to Usenet, where it's just not appropriate. And so on. It's not just a matter of jealous proprietorship.or whipped dogs worried about the next shareholders meeting. jbdigriz