16 Oct
2010
16 Oct
'10
6:45 a.m.
I have a BA356 shelf with a DS-BA35X-FB personality module. The personality
module has two high density connectors on it, I think they are 68-pin. The
pins are too small for me to be able to count them reliably, but the cable
has a 68-pin SCSI Wide connector on the other end. The second connector on
the personality module is not connected to anything, I do not have a
terminator for it and I am unsure if I need one. I have connected this to my
433au which has a Qlogic QLA1040 SCSI adapter in it. I have been unable to
locate any documentation for either the personality module or the SCSI
adapter.
I am having problems getting the SRM to recognise the disks in the shelf.
Sometimes it will see no devices at all, not even the CD-ROM connected to
the internal SCSI cable. Other times it will see a ton of disks as shown in
this partial extract from the console:
>>sh dev
dka0.0.0.1009.0 DKA0
dka100.1.0.1009.0 DKA100
dka101.1.0.1009.0 DKA101
dka103.1.0.1009.0 DKA103
dka105.1.0.1009.0 DKA105
dka107.1.0.1009.0 DKA107
dka1100.11.0.1009.0 DKA1100
dka1102.11.0.1009.0 DKA1102
Just now I tried with one SBB in slot 0 and I got this:
>>sh dev
dka400.4.0.1009.0 DKA400
MATSHITA CD-ROM CR-508 XS03
dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0
ewa0.0.0.3.0 EWA0 00-00-F8-75-BE-63
pka0.7.0.1009.0 PKA0 SCSI Bus ID 7 5.57
pqa0.0.0.4.0 PQA0 PCI EIDE
pqb0.0.1.4.0 PQB0 PCI EIDE
When I added a second SBB in slot 1 then I got this:
>>sh dev
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0 to
poll...
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0 to poll...
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0 to poll...
dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0
ewa0.0.0.3.0 EWA0 00-00-F8-75-BE-63
pka0.7.0.1009.0 PKA0 SCSI Bus ID 7 5.57
pqa0.0.0.4.0 PQA0 PCI EIDE
pqb0.0.1.4.0 PQB0 PCI EIDE
>>
I am not quite sure what is going on, what the jumpers on the personality
module do, whether I need to insert a terminator on the second personality
module connector, or whether there are some jumpers on the QLA1040 adapter
that need to be set, or is there something else I need to do.
Anyone have any clues?
Thanks
Rob
16 Oct
16 Oct
8:32 a.m.
Is there a SCSI terminator on the back of the shelf? I can't get to
any of my BA356 shelves to look, but I have used BA350's a lot and
they have a terminator hidden by one of the fans.
BTW, I tried to get a BA356 running on my 433au, and never succeeded,
I used BA350's till upgrading to Andataco JBOD boxes. I was never
able to determine if the issue was with the 433au or the BA356 (my
433au has some fairly serious issues including a dead PCI slot, but
was still stable if configured right).
Zane
At 2:45 PM +0100 10/16/10, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I have a BA356 shelf with a DS-BA35X-FB personality
module. The personality
module has two high density connectors on it, I think they are 68-pin. The
pins are too small for me to be able to count them reliably, but the cable
has a 68-pin SCSI Wide connector on the other end. The second connector on
the personality module is not connected to anything, I do not have a
terminator for it and I am unsure if I need one. I have connected this to my
433au which has a Qlogic QLA1040 SCSI adapter in it. I have been unable to
locate any documentation for either the personality module or the SCSI
adapter.
I am having problems getting the SRM to recognise the disks in the shelf.
Sometimes it will see no devices at all, not even the CD-ROM connected to
the internal SCSI cable. Other times it will see a ton of disks as shown in
this partial extract from the console:
--
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| | Photographer |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| My flickr Photostream |
| http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |
>>sh dev
dka0.0.0.1009.0
DKA0
dka100.1.0.1009.0 DKA100
dka101.1.0.1009.0 DKA101
dka103.1.0.1009.0 DKA103
dka105.1.0.1009.0 DKA105
dka107.1.0.1009.0 DKA107
dka1100.11.0.1009.0 DKA1100
dka1102.11.0.1009.0 DKA1102
Just now I tried with one SBB in slot 0 and I got this:
>>sh dev
dka400.4.0.1009.0
DKA400 MATSHITA CD-ROM CR-508 XS03
dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0
ewa0.0.0.3.0 EWA0 00-00-F8-75-BE-63
pka0.7.0.1009.0 PKA0 SCSI Bus ID 7 5.57
pqa0.0.0.4.0 PQA0 PCI EIDE
pqb0.0.1.4.0 PQB0 PCI EIDE
When I added a second SBB in slot 1 then I got this:
>>sh dev
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0
to poll...
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0 to poll...
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0 to poll...
dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0
ewa0.0.0.3.0 EWA0 00-00-F8-75-BE-63
pka0.7.0.1009.0 PKA0 SCSI Bus ID 7 5.57
pqa0.0.0.4.0 PQA0 PCI EIDE
pqb0.0.1.4.0 PQB0 PCI EIDE
>>
I am not quite sure what is going on, what the jumpers on the personality
module do, whether I need to insert a terminator on the second personality
module connector, or whether there are some jumpers on the QLA1040 adapter
that need to be set, or is there something else I need to do.
Anyone have any clues?
Thanks
Rob
9:06 a.m.
Yes, there is a terminator behind one of the fans.
Regards
Rob
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Sent: 16 October 2010 16:33
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Confused by Alpha 433au and SCSI
Is there a SCSI terminator on the back of the shelf? I can't get to any
of my
BA356 shelves to look, but I have used BA350's a
lot and they have a
terminator hidden by one of the fans.
BTW, I tried to get a BA356 running on my 433au, and never succeeded, I
used BA350's till upgrading to Andataco JBOD boxes. I was never able to
determine if the issue was with the 433au or the BA356 (my 433au has some
fairly serious issues including a dead PCI slot, but was still stable if
configured
right).
Zane
At 2:45 PM +0100 10/16/10, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I have a BA356 shelf with a DS-BA35X-FB
personality module. The
personality module has two high density connectors on it, I think they
are 68-pin. The pins are too small for me to be able to count them
reliably, but the cable has a 68-pin SCSI Wide connector on the other
end. The second connector on the personality module is not connected to
anything, I do not have a terminator for it and I am unsure if I need
one. I have connected this to my 433au which has a Qlogic QLA1040 SCSI
adapter in it. I have been unable to locate any documentation for
either the personality module or the SCSI adapter.
I am having problems getting the SRM to recognise the disks in the shelf.
Sometimes it will see no devices at all, not even the CD-ROM connected
to the internal SCSI cable. Other times it will see a ton of disks as
shown in this partial extract from the console:
need to
do.
>>sh dev
dka0.0.0.1009.0
DKA0
dka100.1.0.1009.0 DKA100
dka101.1.0.1009.0 DKA101
dka103.1.0.1009.0 DKA103
dka105.1.0.1009.0 DKA105
dka107.1.0.1009.0 DKA107
dka1100.11.0.1009.0 DKA1100
dka1102.11.0.1009.0 DKA1102
Just now I tried with one SBB in slot 0 and I got this:
>>sh dev
dka400.4.0.1009.0
DKA400 MATSHITA CD-ROM CR-508 XS03
dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0
ewa0.0.0.3.0 EWA0 00-00-F8-75-BE-63
pka0.7.0.1009.0 PKA0 SCSI Bus ID 7 5.57
pqa0.0.0.4.0 PQA0 PCI EIDE
pqb0.0.1.4.0 PQB0 PCI EIDE
When I added a second SBB in slot 1 then I got this:
>>sh dev
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0
to poll...
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0 to poll...
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0 to poll...
dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0
ewa0.0.0.3.0 EWA0 00-00-F8-75-BE-63
pka0.7.0.1009.0 PKA0 SCSI Bus ID 7 5.57
pqa0.0.0.4.0 PQA0 PCI EIDE
pqb0.0.1.4.0 PQB0 PCI EIDE
>>
I am not quite sure what is going on, what the jumpers on the
personality module do, whether I need to insert a terminator on the
second personality module connector, or whether there are some jumpers
on the QLA1040 adapter that need to be set, or is there something else I
Anyone have any clues?
Thanks
Rob
--
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| | Photographer |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| My flickr Photostream |
| http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ | 
17 Oct
17 Oct
1:11 p.m.
On 16/10/10 14:45, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I have a BA356 shelf with a DS-BA35X-FB personality
module. The personality
module has two high density connectors on it, I think they are 68-pin. The
pins are too small for me to be able to count them reliably, but the cable
has a 68-pin SCSI Wide connector on the other end. The second connector on
the personality module is not connected to anything, I do not have a
terminator for it and I am unsure if I need one. I have connected this to my
433au which has a Qlogic QLA1040 SCSI adapter in it. I have been unable to
locate any documentation for either the personality module or the SCSI
adapter.
I am having problems getting the SRM to recognise the disks in the shelf.
Sometimes it will see no devices at all, not even the CD-ROM connected to
the internal SCSI cable. Other times it will see a ton of disks as shown in
this partial extract from the console:
Rob, I run a BA356 from my VAX via a personality module with an HD 50
SCSI connector. I don't terminate the pass through connector.
I have a 16 bit personality module which has 68 pin HD connectors but
have never tried connecting it up.
Mark.
>> sh dev
>>
dka0.0.0.1009.0 DKA0
dka100.1.0.1009.0 DKA100
dka101.1.0.1009.0 DKA101
dka103.1.0.1009.0 DKA103
dka105.1.0.1009.0 DKA105
dka107.1.0.1009.0 DKA107
dka1100.11.0.1009.0 DKA1100
dka1102.11.0.1009.0 DKA1102
Just now I tried with one SBB in slot 0 and I got this:
>> sh dev
>>
dka400.4.0.1009.0 DKA400 MATSHITA CD-ROM CR-508
XS03
dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0
ewa0.0.0.3.0 EWA0 00-00-F8-75-BE-63
pka0.7.0.1009.0 PKA0 SCSI Bus ID 7 5.57
pqa0.0.0.4.0 PQA0 PCI EIDE
pqb0.0.1.4.0 PQB0 PCI EIDE
When I added a second SBB in slot 1 then I got this:
>> sh dev
>>
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0 to poll...
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0 to poll...
waiting for pka0.7.0.1009.0 to poll...
dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0
ewa0.0.0.3.0 EWA0 00-00-F8-75-BE-63
pka0.7.0.1009.0 PKA0 SCSI Bus ID 7 5.57
pqa0.0.0.4.0 PQA0 PCI EIDE
pqb0.0.1.4.0 PQB0 PCI EIDE
>>
I am not quite sure what
is going on, what the jumpers on the personality
module do, whether I need to insert a terminator on the second personality
module connector, or whether there are some jumpers on the QLA1040 adapter
that need to be set, or is there something else I need to do.
Anyone have any clues?
Thanks
Rob
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