True. But other computer makers of even lower stature have shown up on the CC list, and in bitsavers. Apart from the big ones, it seems to be just a random process that determines which machines appear and which ones do not. For example, I can't think of any other reason why Varian would show up in Al's archive and Philips would not... -- Varian was actually in the top 10 of minicomputer makers for a short time in the early 70s. I have almost nothing on non-US computer systems. Those sorts of things never show up here. I've picked up a few things on Ferranti though auctions. It IS a 'random' process of what software and documentation can still be found. I also wanted to mention since people have been offering newer manuals lately that I've been limiting what I've been putting up to pre-IBMPC era (early 80's) and mostly non-consumer computer documentation. There seems to be decent coverage of the consumer stuff elsewhere, and the workstation war era stuff is a bit too new.