25 May
2001
25 May
'01
8:09 a.m.
At 08:19 AM 5/25/01 -0400, joe wrote:
And here, they're required to erase all software, and apparently
any docs or disks also get chucked before the item is put up
for surplus sale.
- John
The prblem with
school equipment is the disposals policy. As they are bought
with public money the requirements for disposal are very strict. In my area
the policy is:
1) Offer to other departments
2) Offer to other schools
3) Offer to other local authority departments
4) Offer to charitable institutions
5) Offer to staff
The policy in the US is the same except there's no **requirement** to offer the
stuff to the staff. Although mandy places do. 
25 May
25 May
1:54 p.m.
New subject: Manuals :Surplus Re: UK
At 12:09 PM 5/25/01 -0500, you wrote:
At 08:19 AM 5/25/01 -0400, joe wrote:
offer
the stuff to the staff. Although mandy places do.
And here, they're required to erase all software, and apparently
any docs or disks also get chucked before the item is put up
for surplus sale.
Shoot! Usually they just pull and trash the hard drive :-( I don't
know what happens to the books but it's rare to get manuals with ANYTHING
that gets surplused. I've heard rumors that because of copyright laws (or
some othe lame reason) they can't "re-sell" the manuals and have to destroy
them. Does anyone know what the exact reason is?
Joe
>The prblem with school equipment is the
disposals policy. As they are
bought
>with public money the requirements for
disposal are very strict. In my
area
the policy
is:
1) Offer to other departments
2) Offer to other schools
3) Offer to other local authority departments
4) Offer to charitable institutions
5) Offer to staff
The policy in the US is the same except there's no **requirement** to - John
2:35 p.m.
New subject: Manuals :Surplus Re: UK
On Fri, 25 May 2001, joe wrote:
At 12:09 PM 5/25/01 -0500, you wrote:
I cannot say that I 'know', but my guess would be a combination of
laziness and ignorance. First, the people who used the equipment are
much more interested in getting the replacement equipment installed and
to learn more about it. If they do bother to box up manuals, it is
unlikely that they are segregated by machine or even generically.
Second, the people who actually do the surplussing from the organization
don't know (and don't care) about what goes with which. Far easier to
palm them all off on some paper recycler, or worse.
- don
At 08:19 AM 5/25/01 -0400, joe wrote:
offer
the stuff to the staff. Although mandy places do.
And here, they're required to erase all software, and apparently
any docs or disks also get chucked before the item is put up
for surplus sale.
>The prblem with school equipment is the
disposals policy. As they are
bought
>with public money the requirements for
disposal are very strict. In my
area
the policy
is:
1) Offer to other departments
2) Offer to other schools
3) Offer to other local authority departments
4) Offer to charitable institutions
5) Offer to staff
The policy in the US is the same except there's no **requirement** to - John
Shoot! Usually they just pull and trash the hard drive :-( I don't
know what happens to the books but it's rare to get manuals with ANYTHING
that gets surplused. I've heard rumors that because of copyright laws (or
some othe lame reason) they can't "re-sell" the manuals and have to
destroy
them. Does anyone know what the exact reason is?
Joe 
2:51 p.m.
New subject: Manuals :Surplus Re: UK
The federal government is the worst at disposal - first other
interdepartmental agencies, then other federal agencies, then state
agencies, then county, then eventually public auction.
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From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Don Maslin
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:35 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Manuals :Surplus Re: UK
On Fri, 25 May 2001, joe wrote:
I don't
At 12:09 PM 5/25/01 -0500, you wrote:
>At 08:19 AM 5/25/01 -0400, joe wrote:
> >>The prblem with school equipment is the disposals policy.
As they
are
> bought
> >>with public money the requirements for disposal are very
strict. In
my
> area
> >>the policy is:
> >>
> >>1) Offer to other departments
> >>2) Offer to other schools
> >>3) Offer to other local authority departments
> >>4) Offer to charitable institutions
> >>5) Offer to staff
> >
> > The policy in the US is the same except there's no
**requirement**
to
offer the
stuff to the staff. Although mandy places do.
And here, they're required to erase all software, and apparently
any docs or disks also get chucked before the item is put up
for surplus sale.
- John
Shoot! Usually they just pull and trash the hard drive :-( know what happens to the books but it's rare
to get manuals
with ANYTHING
that gets surplused. I've heard rumors that
because of
copyright laws (or
some othe lame reason) they can't
"re-sell" the manuals and
have to destroy
them. Does anyone know what the exact reason
is?
Joe
I cannot say that I 'know', but my guess would be a combination of
laziness and ignorance. First, the people who used the equipment are
much more interested in getting the replacement equipment installed and
to learn more about it. If they do bother to box up manuals, it is
unlikely that they are segregated by machine or even generically.
Second, the people who actually do the surplussing from the organization
don't know (and don't care) about what goes with which. Far easier to
palm them all off on some paper recycler, or worse.
- don
11:25 p.m.
New subject: Manuals :Surplus Re: UK
> Shoot! Usually they just pull and trash the
hard drive :-( I don't
> know what happens to the books but it's rare to get manuals with ANYTHING
> that gets surplused. I've heard rumors that because of copyright laws (or
> some othe lame reason) they can't "re-sell" the manuals and have to
destroy
> them. Does anyone know what the exact reason is?
Routinely at the university surplus places I go to, all the "paper" stuff
goes in the trash. My first stop in such places is of course the trash, but
the practice goes too far up the chain so that most "paper" goes in the
local trash can, and isn't passed along with the equipment unless its a
bunch of clean the closet boxes of junk.
Recent finds include a set of boxed Sun manuals, DeskSparq apparently for
the IPX (which I have a few of in my collection).
Recent non finds, a big two shelf vertical filing cabinet "thing" came in,
but instead of folders each shelf was fitted with a row of floppy storage
boxes, freshly dumped of course.
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