I had an optical mouse way back when with my Mac Plus... I bought it as a replacement for a broken mouse. I think it was made by A+ At the time, I hated it, you needed a special mouse pad for it to work, and it wasn't as accurate as the Mac Plus mouse, which made it even harder to draw. Just one of those things that I found interesting now that optical mice are all the rage. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>