----- Original Message -----
From: "chris" <cb(a)mythtech.net>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Locating older systems & parts... (was: RE: making disk images)
>Except the dumpster is private property. Theft
pure and simple, in the
eyes
of the law.
I'm not a lawyer, but this might be a regional opinion. I know the cops
around here at least don't consider it private property unless A: the
owner of the land chooses to press charges, or B: the property is some
how restricted access or not normally public access.
Cops have a lot of leeway in what they enforce, for good or for bad
(sometimes common sense _does_ prevail!), but ISTR the owner always has the
option of pressing charges. The cops might not care if they drove past and
saw you, probably wouldn't as it's a frequent passtime of many, but if the
owners called 'em...
So for example, the dumpster I raided the other day, it was in the
parking lot of a publically accessable and open building (a gym, a
realtor, and a weight clinic), so the police wouldn't consider that
private property unless the owner of the land (unlikely to be any of the
tenants) choose to press tresspassing charges.
I'd say `wouldn't feel the need ot enforce the law' as opposed to
`wouldn't
consider that private property'. If you're drunk and making a mess,
tresspassing would probably come up even if nobody on site complained.
But, the dumpster behind the local good will, probably WOULD be
considered that by the police, because it is in the back parking lot of
the building (which is not open for customer parking, its only available
to the public when they are dropping things off), AND, the entire lot is
chained off when the store is closed.
Definintly have to be an in-and-out job here!
And of course curbside garbage is always open season around here. The
only time the cops hassle you on that is if you make a mess. But good
garbage pickers always make sure they clean up after themselves.
Yah. I live close to OSU campus, in the fall when the kids move out, the
pickings are *fabulous*. Peaseas, small electronics, clothes, leather
coats, RK05s (honest, a pair of 'em!), all kinds of good stuff. We take
everything that isn't broken, ripped or damaged, and whatever we don't end
up wanting goes to goodwill.
-chris
Bob