Oh well... With all the exposure of computer collecting I guess this will shot the price of vintage stuff on ebay up!!! (lol!) Well it's a canadian show and they did not come and see me...I think it's even based in Montreal, but I am not sure. But then again my collection is kinda small compared to this guy...but then again, I don't really collect X86 and compatibles...unless they are something outta the ordinary.... I think it will be broadcast again this week, I will try to grab it...and tape it...heck, maybe even try to transfer it to a file or something....I think I have somekinda video grab card for a MAC called a Moonraker here somewhere...but where? I can only imagine perhaps the weird and odd machines I might have been offered for free with the exposure of going on TV...oh well...there is always my "patato chip in the shape of animals" collection that might get me on the tube...or my "survivor - in the space station" application...counting on that too.... Life goes on up north...and it's finally hot and the pool is ready... Claude Canuk Computer Collector http://computer_collector.tripod.com ----- Original Message ----- From: George Leo Rachor Jr. <george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Interesting show on the Computer Garage > His name is Jim Willing... > > Congrats Jim! Your famous again! > > George > > ========================================================= > George L. Rachor Jr. george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com > Hillsboro, Oregon http://rachors.com > United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX > > On Wed, 2 May 2001, Chris Halarewich wrote: > > > Hello all: > > Last night, tuesday I was waching Undercurrants on CBC Newsworld > > (canadian brodcasting company 24 hr news station ) When I saw a story > > about the Compiter Garage in Beverton Oregon, USA very informative > > segment kudos to the proprietor (can't remember name right now) > > thanx > > Chris > > > > -- > > # Netscape POP3 State File > > # This is a generated file! Do not edit. > > > > > > >

Claude, What is a Canuk? Brian.

On Thu, 03 May 2001, you wrote: -- Brian Roth - System Administrator www.webwirz.com - Old Computer Repository Preoccupation is my main occupation.....

-----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Bryan Pope Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 11:14 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Interesting show on the Computer Garage Canuk = Canadian, eh! <rant> Americans!! grrr... next thing you will be asking "How is your igloo these days?" </rant> Cheers, Bryan <displaced Canadian> will shot the me...I think it's collection is really collect grab it...and something....I Moonraker here have been that might get me application...counting CBC Newsworld I saw a story

Canuk = Canadian, eh! <rant> Americans!! grrr... next thing you will be asking "How is your igloo these days?" </rant> Cheers, Bryan <displaced Canadian> > > Claude, > > What is a Canuk? > > Brian. > > > > On Thu, 03 May 2001, you wrote: > > Oh well... > > > > With all the exposure of computer collecting I guess this will shot the > > price of vintage stuff on ebay up!!! (lol!) > > > > Well it's a canadian show and they did not come and see me...I think it's > > even based in Montreal, but I am not sure. But then again my collection is > > kinda small compared to this guy...but then again, I don't really collect > > X86 and compatibles...unless they are something outta the ordinary.... > > > > I think it will be broadcast again this week, I will try to grab it...and > > tape it...heck, maybe even try to transfer it to a file or something....I > > think I have somekinda video grab card for a MAC called a Moonraker here > > somewhere...but where? > > > > I can only imagine perhaps the weird and odd machines I might have been > > offered for free with the exposure of going on TV...oh well...there is > > always my "patato chip in the shape of animals" collection that might get me > > on the tube...or my "survivor - in the space station" application...counting > > on that too.... > > > > Life goes on up north...and it's finally hot and the pool is ready... > > > > Claude > > Canuk Computer Collector > > http://computer_collector.tripod.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: George Leo Rachor Jr. &lt;george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com&gt; > > To: &lt;classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org&gt; > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:32 PM > > Subject: Re: Interesting show on the Computer Garage > > > > > > > His name is Jim Willing... > > > > > > Congrats Jim! Your famous again! > > > > > > George > > > > > > ========================================================= > > > George L. Rachor Jr. george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com > > > Hillsboro, Oregon http://rachors.com > > > United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX > > > > > > On Wed, 2 May 2001, Chris Halarewich wrote: > > > > > > > Hello all: > > > > Last night, tuesday I was waching Undercurrants on CBC Newsworld > > > > (canadian brodcasting company 24 hr news station ) When I saw a story > > > > about the Compiter Garage in Beverton Oregon, USA very informative > > > > segment kudos to the proprietor (can't remember name right now) > > > > thanx > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > -- > > > > # Netscape POP3 State File > > > > # This is a generated file! Do not edit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Brian Roth - System Administrator > www.webwirz.com - Old Computer Repository > > Preoccupation is my main occupation..... >

Brian Roth wrote: http://ntas.nscc.sccd.ctc.edu/chaseplace/claslink/Canuck..htm (yes there's a double dot in there). I'm not sure which opinion I support in that, but I'm more inclined to go with the "quelle canule" as the original statement that started it all. "Hab" is a reference to "habitant", a French term from the early part of the century and before. Quebec farmers were called "habitants". "Habs" was then used to refer to the French team members of the Montreal Canadiens hockey club. From what I've seen, the H in the Canadiens' logo is not for "habitant" but part of "Club de Hockey Canadien", the official name of the team from 1917 on, after it was changed from Canadian Athletic Club, the original name in 1909. -- Tim Harrison Network Engineer harrison(a)timharrison.com http://www.networklevel.com/

Excellent response. I've watched Hockey most of my life but never knew what the %#$% a hab was. I'll have my daughter read this as she is a huge Canadien's fan.

Now next question... Whats a Hoser? Just kidding.

I live 1 1/2 hours from Toronto and love going by car or boat. Great city but there are three numbers that would keep me from living there. 4 0 1 You guys are drowning in cars.

Canuk = Canadian, eh!

<rant> Americans!! grrr... next thing you will be asking "How is your igloo these days?" </rant>

Bryan <displaced Canadian>

massive paring down of the collective. I need the space back, and I've gotten the "I never had any toys when I was young, and now I can have everything!" phase out of my system. Time to focus on the few machines that I really want.

You and me both. Everywhere from London through to Sault Ste. Marie has been home. Now, I'm living (again) with my American wife in New York. Computing-wise, living in either country hasn't been a problem. When we moved back to Toronto, I just shipped things across the border. Now we have one less step in acquiring stuff, even though, I'm about to do a massive paring down of the collective. I need the space back, and I've gotten the "I never had any toys when I was young, and now I can have everything!" phase out of my system. Time to focus on the few machines that I really want.

Bryan Pope skrev: Ingersoll... That name sounds familiar. Isn't that the name of some late 70s video game console?

-- En ligne avec Thor 2.6a. Sagt, ist noch ein Land, au?er Deutschland, wo man die Nase eher r?mpfen lernt als putzen? --- Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

On Mon, 7 May 2001, Don Maslin wrote: They made watches in the 60s didn't they?

-- Regards Pete

New York! ewwww.... I am from Ingersoll, a little town (Pop. 9500) I now live in the suburbs of Boston and am very happy that I do *not* commute into Boston! But New York... I went there once.. Smelly from all the garbage and then you try to drive there. HA!

As far as I'm concerned, Canada is the 51st US State. Don't piss us off or we'll invade. :) Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

Yes, please check your guns at the border... I deal a lot with US people and when they visit Montreal they always have statements like: "What are all these people doing walking the downtown streets at 10:00 - 11:00 PM at night?...I guess its not dangerous...".... Well, no it's not dangerous....and Montreal is a big place.... Some americans say it's very much like SanFrancisco..."Live and let live".... Yes, nice place US -- except for all the guns...

How can anyone be so naieve as to think that nearly anything else besides a gun can't be used as a lethal weapon? What's next? A ban on water, computer monitors, screwdrivers, garden shears, pillows, rocks, power cords, knives, pencils, glass jars, assorted cooking utensils, potatos, various herbs and other plants, tree branches, heavy books, a box of greenbar paper, monkey wrench, darts and test-equipment probes for a start? ...and let's not forget a ban on using parts of the human body as weapons; what you you propose to do about that, require that everyone wear a straightjacket? ...while gagged as well so as not to commit the crime of saying anything politically incoredt?

How does "clueless, irrational nitwit who has never once found their life

danger from violence" strike you? When you've had your life placed in danger, have access to a firearm and choose not to use -- or threaten to use -- it you're welcome to describe this as "inane". Until then you're working in a vacuum. I was raised in the city and never thought once about owning a firearm. It wasn't until I moved to rural California as was advised by the sheriff's department of off-hours response times that I took an interest -- and I'm glad I did.

I am perfectly willing to respect the beliefs of those people who choose not to own firearms. It is a shame that same respect is not returned for my beliefs.

from NewTek? I have two of the standard colorwheels but not the one

Yes, I agree about it having caused more pain. However, could one not use a broken Windoze CD-ROM as a weapon? Could one not the software itself to frustrate and annoy someone to death? For example, a criminal trapping a UNIX hacker in a small room with only a PeeCee running Windoze for some indefinite period of time.

I've been wondering why Windoze was left off of the list. While it is seldom deadly, it has caused more pain than all of the rest combined.

Thank you for the insult. I'm someone who believes that life is sacred, and I take it from your tone that you see life as a commodity to be wasted. One day, I will stand before the Lord, and when He asks for an accounting of my life, I can at least give Him an honest accounting in that regard. "Vengence is mine" and all that. Extend yourself.

Thank you for the insult. I'm someone who believes that life is sacred, and I take it from your tone that you see life as a commodity to be wasted. One day, I will stand before the Lord, and when He asks for an accounting of my life, I can at least give Him an honest accounting in that regard. "Vengence is mine" and all that. Extend yourself. in

day, I will stand before the Lord, and when He asks for an accounting of my life, I can at least give Him an honest accounting in that regard. "Vengence

in > danger from violence" strike you? When you've had your life placed in

-----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of John Lawson Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 11:29 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: OT (guns) Delete now; don't read... To further the response of Chris Kennedy: I too lived for many years in a very rural area, where response time of any emergency organization was seldom under 10 minutes average. many times more like 1/2 hour. That's just the way it was. On a very US/California centric note... five years ago my friend and his wife were awakened at 2:30 am by a person in their bedroom. When my friend switched on the light, this person immediately attacked him with a 2' long machete, luckily the first swing missed and it embedded itself in the furniture. My friend pulled out his 9mm from the bedstand and fired once, striking the individual in the right thigh, dropping him. Wife had called 911 (the American universal emergency number) and in under two minutes, police were there. There very first thing the officer said to my completely traumatized and shocked friend was "You shoulda plugged this joker. If he lives, it's gonna get ugly." The 'joker' was/is a Guatemalan national, in this country illegally,with a long string of arrests and deportations for drugs, theft, and armed assaults, including one suspected murder which lacked conclusive evidence. The individual was duly tried and convicted for attempted muder, breaking and entering, and possession of narcotics in 'for sale' quantities, and is now in the California correction system doing 25 years minimum, more likey 40. He is also suing my friend for $5.5 Million dollars for shooting him and shortening his leg by two inches. This individual is represented gratis by a huge legal organization run by 'immigrant' lawyers who specialize in aid to Hispanics. My friend is on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars, just to *defend himself*, which he will never recover, and the legal prognosis is very poor for him. The guy who tried to kill my friend for PCP money is undoubdtedly going to win the judgement against the 'defendant', and even if he gets out of jail in California, and gets sent back to Guatemala... I guess you could say he 'won'. 5 Mil goes a long way in Central America. I hold all life sacred, and it's not up to me to judge another's life or conduct. But I have also been in life-threatening situations, and a few of those threats came directly from other humans who did not wish me well at that particular moment. Those of you who decry the ownership of handguns quite possible will feel differently, should (Ghod forbid!) you ever find yourself in that horrible position. obClassiccmp: maybe thieves will break in to steal that Apple I you've been advertising on eBay.... then what will you do? ;} Cheerz Sheriff John

Get rid of people who thing killing a fellow human being is a reasonable course of action and gun control is a non-issue. Getting rid of guns will only force those looney tunes to use other (often more effective) techniques to kill you. Sigh, --Chuck

This is inane. A gun has a single purpose for existance - and that is to take away the life of someone or something. One doesn't hammer a nail with a gun, nor does one rake leaves with a gun. What purpose of an AK-47? One doesn't go deer hunting with a 9mm. I have several examples of large calibre shells - one is a 50mm and the other is in the 20mm range. What purpose of these? One shoots ballistic projectiles at living beings with a gun, in the hopes of terminating, or seriously damaging, the target. Call me what you will.

On Sun, 6 May 2001, Billy D'Augustine wrote: Oh for fuck's sake, Billy. Guns are a natural reality of our evolution as a species. When you come up with a plan for global Utopia then we'll turn all the guns into 19" equipment racks. In the meantime, enjoy the Biathlon in the Winter Olympics. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer

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I agree to a point, but a gun is a helluva lot more efficient and lethal than any of the weapons you mentioned below. The NRA tries to pitch this sort of idea all the time, but the simple fact is, someone can walk into a public place with a 12-gauge shotgun and create a big mess in a matter of a few seconds. -Lanny

Don't give them ideas... next thing you know, it will be a felony to haul fertilizer with a diesel pick-up truck.

Someone pulled up next the Fred P. Murrah (spelling) with a Van, Deisel fuel, and fertilizer. The whole place went boom, shall we ban vans, fertilzer, and deisel fuel? It all happened pretty quick too. I say these few common items were more efficent than your shotgun.

I am sure that most farmers use more fertilizer and diesel fuel than what was in that truck. In other words, I don't think that the amounts they had would have been unusual. If I recall it was just a box van they used, nothing really that huge.

Someone pulled up next the Fred P. Murrah (spelling) with a Van, Deisel fuel, and fertilizer.

I really wish everyone would just forget about that incident. I live in Oklahoma, and to this day the sentimentalizing just will not stop. It's why I stopped watching the local news media except for when the @#$! sirens are blowing. No, I don't want to donate money to build some useless memorial. No, I don't want to go see the useless memorial. No, I don't want to read this book or that book about it. No, I don't want to observe 168 seconds of silence. People die; get over it.

I think the funniest thing about the whole ordeal was when, in the early news coverage, the reporters were saying that the, um, 'authorities' suspected two middle-eastern men were to blame. I don't want to know how our middle-eastern community felt about our trigger-happy idiot reporters when they discovered it was just some fellow hicks with a truck full of farm products.

What a really stupid analogy. Screwdrivers and garden shears are not weapons, they are tools which may be used as weapons. Guns, however, are made for the express purpose of killing people, and the only other function they have is that of a really lousy/dangerous hammer. Next time, please don't be so stupid.

R. D. Davis skrev: What a really stupid analogy. Screwdrivers and garden shears are not weapons, they are tools which may be used as weapons. Guns, however, are made for the express purpose of killing people, and the only other function they have is that of a really lousy/dangerous hammer. Next time, please don't be so stupid.

"Claude.W" wrote: The only people I've seen opposing guns are those that distrust other people to do the "right" thing, i.e. liberals for the most part. Fear is something that does strange things to some peoples ability to think. Fear - Fantisized Experiences Appearing Real.

Fear is neccesary to stay alive though. Only an utter fool fears nothing and generally won't have a very long life because of it.

That seems to be what Dubya thinks too. Just remember what happened the last time the US invaded us in 1812. We also have a secret weapon. US society is riddled with Canadians in high places. As well, our cold weather kills off the weak ones early, yanks wouldn't last a week fighting a war in a blizzard. Minnisotans might be more of a problem but we could always bribe them with hockey players.

And for this insult we're cutting back exports of power to California and New York. Happy brown-out.

Typical lazy surface journalism. She (Catherine Legge) contacted me having gotten my e-mail address from the now defunct Toronto Classic Computer Collectors web-page or an article written about us in a local computer paper. I imagine others there were also contacted but given what she finally produced, who knows. Pretty easy research. I responded encouragingly but never heard from her again. I guess it was easier to pull stuff off Jim's site than to do a real story about Canadian collectors. Another Puffball posing as a journalist. Larry > Oh well... > > With all the exposure of computer collecting I guess this will shot the > price of vintage stuff on ebay up!!! (lol!) > > Well it's a canadian show and they did not come and see me...I think

> even based in Montreal, but I am not sure. But then again my collection

> kinda small compared to this guy...but then again, I don't really

> X86 and compatibles...unless they are something outta the ordinary.... > > I think it will be broadcast again this week, I will try to grab

> tape it...heck, maybe even try to transfer it to a file or

> think I have somekinda video grab card for a MAC called a Moonraker here > somewhere...but where? > > I can only imagine perhaps the weird and odd machines I might have been > offered for free with the exposure of going on TV...oh well...there is > always my "patato chip in the shape of animals" collection that might

> the tube...or my "survivor - in the space station"

> that too.... > > Life goes on up north...and it's finally hot and the pool is ready... > > Claude > Canuk Computer Collector > http://computer_collector.tripod.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: George Leo Rachor Jr. &lt;george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com&gt; > To: &lt;classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org&gt; > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: Interesting show on the Computer Garage > > > > His name is Jim Willing... > > > > Congrats Jim! Your famous again! > > > > George > > > > ========================================================= > > George L. Rachor Jr. george(a)racsys.rt.rain.com > > Hillsboro, Oregon http://rachors.com > > United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX > > > > On Wed, 2 May 2001, Chris Halarewich wrote: > > > > > Hello all: > > > Last night, tuesday I was waching Undercurrants on CBC

> > > (canadian brodcasting company 24 hr news station ) When I saw a

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