1 Aug
2015
1 Aug
'15
3:10 a.m.
Folks,
Before the great company meltdown of Jan this year and as I discovered the
great mailing list breakdown of not long after I saved some DEC kit for list
members to collect, namely:
Alpha 800 (rackmount)
uVAX 2000
VAX 4000VLC
These are still in my hallway in Cambs UK so if either the people who called
for them or failing that anyone else would like to collect that'd be great.
I have proper scales for shipping weight but they need to be calibrated and
I'm struggling to find anything that weighs exactly 25kg :)
(I know the Alpha800 is '24-28kg', scales are pretty correct there, as they
are with my DS25, but they get a DS10 horribly wrong so...)
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
1 Aug
1 Aug
3:29 a.m.
Hi, I would be very interested in the 4000 vlc. Is it still available? Also is shipping to
Germany possible? How miuch would it cost?
Bye,
Lukas Kaminski
Sent?from?my?BlackBerry?10?smartphone.
? Original Message ?
From: Adrian Graham
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:11
To: Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Reply To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Saved DEC kit
Folks,
Before the great company meltdown of Jan this year and as I discovered the
great mailing list breakdown of not long after I saved some DEC kit for list
members to collect, namely:
Alpha 800 (rackmount)
uVAX 2000
VAX 4000VLC
These are still in my hallway in Cambs UK so if either the people who called
for them or failing that anyone else would like to collect that'd be great.
I have proper scales for shipping weight but they need to be calibrated and
I'm struggling to find anything that weighs exactly 25kg :)
(I know the Alpha800 is '24-28kg', scales are pretty correct there, as they
are with my DS25, but they get a DS10 horribly wrong so...)
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
30 Aug
30 Aug
2:56 a.m.
Hi Lukas,
Shipping is certainly possible but expensive, the 4000 plus a decent sized
packing box will be around 10kg so a rough guess would be ukp45/?62. If that
doesn't sound too bad I can box it up next week and let you know.
Cheers
Adrian
On 01/08/2015 11:29, "Lukas Kaminski" <lukas.kaminski at krankikom.de>
wrote:
Hi, I would be very interested in the 4000 vlc. Is it
still available? Also is
shipping to Germany possible? How miuch would it cost?
Bye,
Lukas Kaminski
Sent?from?my?BlackBerry?10?smartphone.
? Original Message ?
From: Adrian Graham
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:11
To: Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Reply To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Saved DEC kit
Folks,
Before the great company meltdown of Jan this year and as I discovered the
great mailing list breakdown of not long after I saved some DEC kit for list
members to collect, namely:
Alpha 800 (rackmount)
uVAX 2000
VAX 4000VLC
These are still in my hallway in Cambs UK so if either the people who called
for them or failing that anyone else would like to collect that'd be great.
I have proper scales for shipping weight but they need to be calibrated and
I'm struggling to find anything that weighs exactly 25kg :)
(I know the Alpha800 is '24-28kg', scales are pretty correct there, as they
are with my DS25, but they get a DS10 horribly wrong so...)
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
1 Aug
1 Aug
3:45 a.m.
Always interested in a 2000 and a 4000. I suspect these were destined for
other people, but if the takers have not materialised then I will happily
take them.
Regards
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
Graham
Sent: 01 August 2015 11:11
To: Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Saved DEC kit
Folks,
Before the great company meltdown of Jan this year and as I discovered the
great mailing list breakdown of not long after I saved some DEC kit for
list
members to collect, namely:
Alpha 800 (rackmount)
uVAX 2000
VAX 4000VLC
These are still in my hallway in Cambs UK so if either the people who
called for
them or failing that anyone else would like to collect
that'd be great.
I have proper scales for shipping weight but they need to be calibrated
and
I'm
struggling to find anything that weighs exactly 25kg
:) (I know the
Alpha800 is
'24-28kg', scales are pretty correct there, as
they are with my DS25, but
they
get a DS10 horribly wrong so...)
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
3:59 a.m.
No probs Rob, I'll give it a couple of days and dig through my old messages
from Dec/Jan this year. The original takers might also
have dropped off the
list in the same way I did.
A
On 01/08/2015 11:45, "Robert Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>
wrote:
Always interested in a 2000 and a 4000. I suspect
these were destined for
other people, but if the takers have not materialised then I will happily
take them.
Regards
Rob
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
Graham
Sent: 01 August 2015 11:11
To: Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Saved DEC kit
Folks,
Before the great company meltdown of Jan this year and as I discovered the
great mailing list breakdown of not long after I saved some DEC kit for
list
members to collect, namely:
Alpha 800 (rackmount)
uVAX 2000
VAX 4000VLC
These are still in my hallway in Cambs UK so if either the people who
called for
them or failing that anyone else would like to
collect that'd be great.
I have proper scales for shipping weight but they need to be calibrated
and
I'm
struggling to find anything that weighs exactly
25kg :) (I know the
Alpha800 is
'24-28kg', scales are pretty correct
there, as they are with my DS25, but
they
get a DS10 horribly wrong so...)
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
5:04 a.m.
I've sent you an email off list about the Alpha 800; feel free to get in
touch if nobody takes it.
Y.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 11:59 AM Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
wrote:
No probs Rob, I'll give it a couple of days and
dig through my old messages
from Dec/Jan this year. The original takers might also have dropped off the
list in the same way I did.
A
On 01/08/2015 11:45, "Robert Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>
wrote:
but
This message has been sent on the road - excuse me for my brevity.
Always interested in a 2000 and a 4000. I suspect
these were destined for
other people, but if the takers have not materialised then I will happily
take them.
Regards
Rob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
> Graham
> Sent: 01 August 2015 11:11
> To: Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Saved DEC kit
>
> Folks,
>
> Before the great company meltdown of Jan this year and as I discovered
the
great
mailing list breakdown of not long after I saved some DEC kit for
list
members to collect, namely:
Alpha 800 (rackmount)
uVAX 2000
VAX 4000VLC
These are still in my hallway in Cambs UK so if either the people who
called for
them or failing that anyone else would like to
collect that'd be great.
I have proper scales for shipping weight but they need to be calibrated
and
I'm
struggling to find anything that weighs exactly
25kg :) (I know the
Alpha800 is
> '24-28kg', scales are pretty correct there, as they are with my DS25, they
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
-- get a DS10 horribly wrong so...)
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
4 Aug
4 Aug
12:24 p.m.
Hello Adrian,
Any news on whether I might be able to get my hands on the 2000 and 4000
VLC?
Regards
Rob
On 1 August 2015 at 11:59, Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
wrote:
No probs Rob, I'll give it a couple of days and
dig through my old messages
from Dec/Jan this year. The original takers might also have dropped off the
list in the same way I did.
A
On 01/08/2015 11:45, "Robert Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>
wrote:
but
Always interested in a 2000 and a 4000. I suspect
these were destined for
other people, but if the takers have not materialised then I will happily
take them.
Regards
Rob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adrian
> Graham
> Sent: 01 August 2015 11:11
> To: Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Saved DEC kit
>
> Folks,
>
> Before the great company meltdown of Jan this year and as I discovered
the
great
mailing list breakdown of not long after I saved some DEC kit for
list
members to collect, namely:
Alpha 800 (rackmount)
uVAX 2000
VAX 4000VLC
These are still in my hallway in Cambs UK so if either the people who
called for
them or failing that anyone else would like to
collect that'd be great.
I have proper scales for shipping weight but they need to be calibrated
and
I'm
struggling to find anything that weighs exactly
25kg :) (I know the
Alpha800 is
> '24-28kg', scales are pretty correct there, as they are with my DS25, they
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
get a DS10 horribly wrong so...)
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
5 Aug
5 Aug
10:43 a.m.
Hmm?. 55 pints?
In the UK, the pint (as used, I assume for beer) is 568ml. So assuming that 'pint'
means the drink commonly
called that over here and assuming beer has a density similar to water [1] then 44 pints
is very close.
[1] No jokes about making love in a canoe, please.
More seriously, and ignoring things like '25 bags of sugar', what about the sort
of weights used by
those misguided people who do not get their exercise from lifting PDP's into racks?
-tony
10:54 a.m.
Those are "imperial pints", in the US a pint is 16 fluid onces so nearer to
464 (I think) grams...
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of tony
duell
Sent: 05 August 2015 18:43
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: RE: Saved DEC kit
that
Hmm.. 55 pints?
In the UK, the pint (as used, I assume for beer) is 568ml. So assuming 'pint' means the drink commonly called that
over here and assuming beer
has
a density similar to water [1] then 44 pints is very
close.
[1] No jokes about making love in a canoe, please.
More seriously, and ignoring things like '25 bags of sugar', what about
the
sort of weights used by those misguided people who do
not get their
exercise from lifting PDP's into racks?
-tony
11:25 a.m.
>> Hmm.. 55 pints?
> In the UK, the pint (as used, I assume for beer)
is 568ml. So assuming
> that 'pint' means the drink commonly called that over here and assuming
> beer has a density similar to water [1] then 44 pints is very close.
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, Dave G4UGM wrote:
Those are "imperial pints", in the US a pint
is 16 fluid onces so nearer to
464 (I think) grams...
"A pint is a pound, the world around." is no longer true. Not just the
price of beer not being a pound per pint, but the unit of measure.
And pluto is no longer a planet.
Perhaps we should go get 44 pints of beer in UK and 55 pints of beer
in USA. Once we drink them all, we'll have a better perspective on the
problem.
25Kg is definitely in range for a complete microcomputer, or components of
a minicomputer. Or minimal documentation for a system.
11:26 a.m.
Those are "imperial pints", in the US a
pint is 16 fluid onces so nearer to
464 (I think) grams...
"A pint is a pound, the world around." is no longer true. Not just the price of beer not being a pound per pint, but the unit
of measure.
And pluto is no longer a planet.
No, he's a dog (could not resist).
[...]
25Kg is definitely in range for a complete
microcomputer, or components of
a minicomputer. Or minimal documentation for a system.
Its about half the weight of many minicomputer bits (I think an RK05 drive is about
50kg for example).
-tony
12:11 p.m.
On Aug 5, 2015, at 1:26 PM, tony duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
(Fred wrote)
> ...And pluto is no longer a planet.
Give us (New Horizons team) a couple years on that.
I?ll guess that even the IAU is going to realize the error of their ways by the time all
is said and done.
No, he's a dog (could not resist).
:-) I have heard a lot of ballyhoo about Pluto disovered by Americans, first explored by
American spacecraft, etc. etc.
Oddly, not as much about its being named by a Briton (Venetia Phair, nee Burney).
FWIW, I was thinking about the (apparently mythical) pound-weight pint. And aware the
approximation wasn?t good even to three significant figures, but I also guessed that after
disposing of the test mass, nobody would care much about that third significant figure (as
Fred points out)!
- Mark
6 Aug
6 Aug
3:30 a.m.
On 5 August 2015 at 20:25, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
"A pint is a pound, the world around." is no
longer true.
Never was. You always did use weird pints. They were *our* bloody
silly measure, until we adopted something more sensible and easier to
use...
And *nobody* else uses pounds, Fahrenheit or MM-DD-YY. Not in about 2
generations, mostly. Often more.
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4:35 a.m.
Never was. You always did use weird pints. They were *our* bloody
silly measure, until we adopted something more sensible and easier to
use...
Actually, 10 is a lousy base for a measuring system. It has far too few factors.
And *nobody* else uses pounds, Fahrenheit or MM-DD-YY.
Not in about 2
generations, mostly. Often more.
Please stop calling me 'nobody'. I have used pounds (for weight) in the last day
and
degrees Fahrenheit in the last week. I can remember the last time I used Rankine, though
-tony
11:17 a.m.
On 8/6/2015 4:30 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 5 August 2015 at 20:25, Fred Cisin <cisin at
xenosoft.com> wrote:
I do!
"A pint is a pound, the world around."
is no longer true.
Never was. You always did use weird pints. They were *our* bloody
silly measure, until we adopted something more sensible and easier to
use...
And *nobody* else uses pounds, Fahrenheit or MM-DD-YY. Not in about 2
generations, mostly. Often more.
7 Aug
7 Aug
2:48 p.m.
There are establishments here in the US that sell 'pounders' of 'beer',
i.e. 16oz. glasses. The reference is usually to something that only
loosely resembles beer - we're back to sex-in-a-canoe jokes here.
Establishments that server real beer most often refer to them as pints,
although there is evidence some are only 14oz.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:17 AM, ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
On 8/6/2015 4:30 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
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University of Washington
There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
On 5 August 2015 at 20:25, Fred Cisin <cisin
at xenosoft.com> wrote:
"A pint is a pound, the world around."
is no longer true.
Never was. You always did use weird pints. They were *our* bloody
silly measure, until we adopted something more sensible and easier to
use...
And *nobody* else uses pounds, Fahrenheit or MM-DD-YY. Not in about 2
generations, mostly. Often more.
I do!
5 Aug
5 Aug
11:09 a.m.
On 05/08/2015 18:43, "tony duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
More seriously, and ignoring things like '25 bags
of sugar', what about the
sort of weights used by
those misguided people who do not get their exercise from lifting PDP's into
racks?
Surprisingly none of my weightlifting mates can muster 25kg. I like the idea
of a 25kg bag of dog food though, I know somone who works at a pet food
supplier...
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
11:10 a.m.
Surprisingly none of my weightlifting mates can muster
25kg. I like the idea
I doesn't have to be one mass, does it? Couldn't you pile up 5 off 5kg weights?
of a 25kg bag of dog food though, I know somone who
works at a pet food
supplier...
Cement is often sold in 25kg bags now. At one time they were 50kg until some
H&S guy decided that was too heavy to carry. So now you see builders carrying
2 off 25kg sacks instead. Go figure.
-tony
12:20 p.m.
On 05/08/2015 19:10, "tony duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Nope, biggest mass was 20kg. You'd also think that with a warehouse full of
Proliants and Procurve switches I'd be able to amass 25kg easily, but no.
Dog food is still winning :)
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
Surprisingly
none of my weightlifting mates can muster 25kg. I like the idea
I doesn't have to be one mass, does it? Couldn't you pile up 5 off 5kg
weights? 
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