I've been trying to get a clue what I'm talking about, but there are just too many unrelated hits on Google. I was at a company barbeque Sunday and my boss was busting on me, telling a co-worker I heat my house with my computer collection. When he mentioned the PDP-11, Nici looks over at her cousin and says "He'd fall in LOVE with that Prime..." Evidently, their family has one, in storage in Oregon. She has no idea what model it is, but describes it as being waist-high, "deep as a regular rack", and 7 or 8 feet long. So roughly 36"x30"x84". The next time she goes home to Oregon, the Prime is coming home to Papa. :) Probably July or August. Woohoo! Doc