26 Aug
2003
26 Aug
'03
4:30 a.m.
I have a source willing to get me 4 RL02 drives, a bunch of cartridges for
same, and a bunch of RK05 packs - all located in Rochester, NY. He's not sure
he wants to ship. Any chance a listmember could pick up for me and ship for a
fee?
From same source I might also get a microvax, RSX
distros and manuals, etc.
I now have an RK05 drive, so I am hoping to get my 8E up and running in a real
fashion. Still need 16 sector packs for the RK05 though. Oh, and I also
recently acquired an HP-85, man that thing is cute! Anyone have an assembler
rom module they will part with, and an advanced programming rom? Or better
yet, has anyone managed to reproduce the ... whatsit called... rom programming
pack, so you can copy the roms and use them that way?
Jay West
26 Aug
26 Aug
6:38 a.m.
New subject: HP-85 Re: anyone in rochester?
At 11:22 AM 8/26/03 -0500, you wrote:
I have a source willing to get me 4 RL02 drives, a
bunch of cartridges for
same, and a bunch of RK05 packs - all located in Rochester, NY. He's not sure
he wants to ship. Any chance a listmember could pick up for me and ship for a
fee?
real
From same source I might also get a microvax, RSX
distros and manuals, etc.
I now have an RK05 drive, so I am hoping to get my 8E up and running in a fashion. Still need 16 sector packs for the RK05
though. Oh, and I also
recently acquired an HP-85, man that thing is cute!
Yeap, they make nice little instrument controllers. I was reading 'Fire
in the Valley' last night and it has a chapter on the HP-85. Funny to think
that HP actually thought that the 85 could compete with the IBM PC as a
general purpose computer!
Anyone have an assembler
rom module they will part with, and an advanced
programming rom? Or better
yet, has anyone managed to reproduce the ... whatsit called... rom
programming
pack, so you can copy the roms and use them that way?
Yes, someone has that going and I think you can download the ROM images
off of the net now. But I THINK you have to have the Programmable ROM
Assembly. I haven't kept up with it and I'm sure that VP or someone else
here can tell you more than I can.
Joe
Jay West
1:22 p.m.
New subject: HP-85 Re: anyone in rochester?
Oh, and I also
recently acquired an HP-85, man that thing is cute!
Yeap, they make nice little instrument controllers. I was reading 'Fire
in the Valley' last night and it has a chapter on the HP-85. Funny to that HP actually thought that the 85 could compete
with the IBM PC as a
general purpose computer!
Oh man, I gotta disagree. The HP-85 is a wonderful machine and in most
respects IS a general purpose computer. I'll take it over an IBM PC any day
of the week. But in addition to playing with it standalone, wonder what it
could do with my 1631D analyzer. I am assuming my 2225 thinkjet will work on
it. Need to find what floppies and hard disks are supported via the HP-IB
module too.
I am hoping there are other '85 enthusiasts on the list? I have some spare
roms... looking for the assembler rom. Saw some mention of pascal for this
beast too! Ok, has anyone found a decent source for the DC100 tapes it uses,
or am I doomed to pay ebay prices for each tape?
Sorry, acting like a kid at christmas :>
Jay West
27 Aug
27 Aug
2:34 a.m.
New subject: HP-85 Re: anyone in rochester?
At 08:13 PM 8/26/03 -0500, you wrote:
think
Unfortunately, not many. Is your's just an 85 or is it an 85B? I'm
assuming that it's just an 85 since you didn't say it was a B. The B has a
built-in Mass Storage ROM. You can add that ROM to your 85 and use it with
the HP 9121 disk drive. I think the same ROM also supports the old 52901 5
1/4" and HP 9895 8" disk drives. The only hard drive that's supported by
that ROM is the HP-9133/9134 option 010. That option makes the 5 Mb drive
look like 3 1.5Mb 9895 disk drives. Note that some of the 9133/9134s have a
switch inside to trun that option off and on so you may be able to buy a
regular 9133/9134 and turn it into an option 010 drive. I've only found one
like that but the drive in it is bad so I haven't been able to try it. The
010 drives are rare. I've only found one of them but I have 20 or so later
9133s that don't have the option of the switch.
Thre is also an Extended Mass Storage ROM that supports hard dirves.
IIRC it supports 9133/9134s without the 010 option. But the EMS ROM is
very rare.
The 85 is a fine machine, it's too bad that they saddled it with a tape
drive! It would have been a great machine if they would have replaced the
tape drive with a 3.5" floppy drive.
Oh, and I also
recently acquired an HP-85, man that thing is cute!
Yeap, they make nice little instrument controllers. I was reading 'Fire
in the Valley' last night and it has a chapter on the HP-85. Funny to that HP actually thought that the 85 could
compete with the IBM PC as a
general purpose computer!
Oh man, I gotta disagree. The HP-85 is a wonderful machine and in most
respects IS a general purpose computer. I'll take it over an IBM PC any day
of the week. But in addition to playing with it standalone, wonder what it
could do with my 1631D analyzer. I am assuming my 2225 thinkjet will work on
it. Need to find what floppies and hard disks are supported via the HP-IB
module too.
I am hoping there are other '85 enthusiasts on the list?
Oh yeah! there's plenty of us.
I have some spare
roms... looking for the assembler rom. Saw some mention
of pascal for this
beast too! Ok, has anyone found a decent source for the DC100 tapes it uses,
or am I doomed to pay ebay prices for each tape?
Don't buy HP tapes! They're THE worst tapes out there. You can go back
and read the CC list archives, there's been lots of discussion about the HP
tape drives and HP tapes. You can use the old DEC tapes or the old 40Mb
tapes that were used for PC tape drives. They both work fine. Use the
INITIALIZE command to reformat them on the 85.
Sorry, acting like a kid at christmas :>
Welcome to the world of HP computers!
Joe
Jay West
1:26 p.m.
New subject: HP-85 Re: anyone in rochester?
Joe wrote...
Unfortunately, not many. Is your's just an 85
or is it an 85B?
It's an 85, not an 85B. I *DO* have the mass storage rom
though.
You can add that ROM to your 85 and use it with
the HP 9121 disk drive.
What about the 9122?
I've only found one of them but I have 20 or so
later
9133s that don't have the option of the switch.
So without the switch can I use
it on the 85 with mass storage rom? If so,
we need to talk trade!
Don't buy HP tapes! They're THE worst
tapes out there. You can go back
and read the CC list archives, there's been lots of discussion about the
HP
tape drives and HP tapes. You can use the old DEC
tapes or the old 40Mb
tapes that were used for PC tape drives. They both work fine. Use the
INITIALIZE command to reformat them on the 85.
Thanks for the tip!! I don't
have too many old DECtapes, but when you say
old 40mb PC tape drive tapes, are you talking QIC-80 tapes? I have tons of
those. If not, exactly what tape do I go buy?
Welcome to the world of HP computers!
*COUGH*
*GAG* *ARGH!!* (clutching my chest) You really know how to hurt an
HP guy *grin*
Jay West
28 Aug
28 Aug
1:15 a.m.
New subject: HP-85 Re: anyone in rochester?
At 08:09 PM 8/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
No, without the switch it's a 5Mb drive and you'll need to use the EMS
ROM. With the switch you can make it look like 3 1.5MB floppy drives and
the MS ROM will work for that.
IIRC the ones marked DC-100 and DC-2000 but try them, if they fit then
they'll work. But most likely your tape drive wheel has disintegrated anyway.
Well SMALL HPs then :-) (Can't believe that an "HP guy" didn't
already
have an HP-85).
Joe
Joe wrote...
Nope. just the 9121, 52901 and 9895 AFIK.
Unfortunately, not many. Is your's just an
85 or is it an 85B?
It's an 85, not an 85B. I *DO* have the mass storage rom
though.
You can add that ROM to your 85 and use it with
the HP 9121 disk drive.
What about the 9122? I've only found one of them but I have 20 or
so later
9133s that don't have the option of the switch.
So without the switch can I use
it on the 85 with mass storage rom? If so,
we need to talk trade! Don't buy HP tapes! They're THE worst
tapes out there. You can go back
and read the CC list archives, there's been lots of discussion about the
HP
tape drives and HP tapes. You can use the old DEC
tapes or the old 40Mb
tapes that were used for PC tape drives. They both work fine. Use the
INITIALIZE command to reformat them on the 85.
Thanks for the tip!! I don't
have too many old DECtapes, but when you say
old 40mb PC tape drive tapes, are you talking QIC-80 tapes? I have tons of
those. If not, exactly what tape do I go buy? Welcome to the world of HP computers!
*COUGH* *GAG* *ARGH!!* (clutching my chest) You really know how to hurt an
HP guy *grin*
Jay West
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