In a message dated 6/18/2003 3:39:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, teoz(a)neo.rr.com writes: << Fastest NUBUS video card I know of is the Radius Thunder IV 1600, good luck finding one. Alot of that speed is from the built in DSP chips that accelerate photoshop. I have the plain supermac thunder IV without the DSP addon board and its not faster then the built in video on my Q950 for normal video (the built in video doesnt use the nubus bus so its faster then just about any addon board for normal video) The fastest 68k upgrade to a nubus non PPC mac would be a Rocket 68040/40 (or maybe a 50) nubus card. >> I have a Rocket card but never got it to work properly. I lucked out and was able to download drivers for it, but the system would get flakey after the rocket sound effect played.