I just went through this. The Montagar site has all you need but the docs that come with the cd are dense and not very explanatory. Here is what you need to do. Get your OpenVMS cd via the online order at Montagar.com. Once you have it: The registration is not so intuitive. Go to Montagar.com and fill out the registration for your software using your ID given by DECUS with your cd order. Specify VAXVMS or ALPHA. This will get you your registration info via e-mail in minutes flat but it only covers the base operating system. For the other products such as Motif (window manager), you need to go back to the exact same page and specify "layered products" in the drop-down box (it only has three options) entering the same information otherwise. You will receive a much larger e-mail giving you all the info you need to register the other components. The e-mail gives you everything you need but does not tell you it does or how to do it in any plain terms. An Example of this e-mail (details altered to protect the guilty): Boot the cd. Usually you will enter "b dka400" or "b dka200". Whatever the boot device's scsi address is, just multiply by 100. The Install will begin. You can follow the docs that came with your openvms cd for this. Don't bother with the registration dialogs at this point, just answer that you don't want to right now. The dialogs did not work for me but the command-line reg did just fine. Once the operating system is installed, log in as user SYSTEM and enter what you see to enter below substituting your own code for my altered ones. Remember to get the Layered products reg as well or you will have trouble though I found $! Usage of this licenses consistutes agreement with all terms of this Hobbyist $! License Agreement $! $ LICENSE REGISTER VAX-VMS - /ACTIVITY=A - /AUTHORIZATION=DECUS-USA-freeman-154786 - /DATE=27-OCT-2001 - /HARDWARE_ID=cz409027NS - /ISSUER=DECUS - /OPTIONS=(NO_SHARE) - /PRODUCER=DEC - /TERMINATION=27-OCT-2001 - /UNITS=0 - /CHECKSUM=1-QAGH-DECE-FPED-KMHI What this is saying is to enter at the DCL prompt ($): "license register vax-vms /activity=a /autorization=decus-usa-freeman-154786 /date=27-oct-2001 /hardware_id=cz409027ns /issuer=decus /options=(no_share) /producer=dec /termination=27-oct-2001 /units=0 /checksum=1-qagh-dece-fped-kmhi" OMIT the QUOTES of course. Nothing will happen, you will get a prompt. This is good and means that the product is now registered. If it complains then you missed a character or something. For layered products you need to repeat the process for each of them using the codes provided in the second e-mail. I have to say I have found the process counter-intuitive but express my thanks to DEC for thier largess nevertheless. Data General never gave me more than the time of day and I had to enter that myself. ;-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey S. Worley President Complete Computer Services, Inc. 30 Greenwood Rd. Asheville, NC 28803 828-277-5959 THETechnoid(a)home.com -----------------------------------------------------------