25 Mar
2005
25 Mar
'05
6:06 p.m.
Okay here's the deal. I bought this Commodore 202 adding machine from
Goodwill a few years ago, I think for $2.00. I promised it to someone
for 7.00 plus shipping, but I never got around to making it happen. I
can't recall who I promised it to, Though. If I promised to you, please
let me know if you still want it, or not. I want to get it out of my
way .... I box it up and ship it this time!
It does have a piece broken out of the case by the plug. I don't know
if it works as I've never tried plugging it in.
Free:
2 72-pin 4 meg simms, marked "ASSY IN USA POWMEM"
1 IBM 7024-113 wide scsi case, that I think is only good for 3.5" single
ended drives. The board that has the external connectors on it says
"Single Ended EPOW". It's dis-assembled. The inside bottom part of the
chassis has some corrosion on it.... not rust, it's whitish and is from
when I tried soaking off some sticky stuff off of it, it should clean
up. I never did get all the sticky stuff off. The rest of it is very
nice. I'd use it myself, but I need a case for 5.25" FH drives, not a
3.5" drive.
Please respond privately.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
25 Mar
25 Mar
9:15 p.m.
New subject: Some said they have CDOS and Cromemco disks
Hi,
Some recently mentioned that they had a significant amount of
Cromemco software, if that person would be willing to allow me to make
dup's of their disks I would appreciate it, I have a CP/M system with
both 5.25" and 8" disks on it so I can handle reading both types, I have
a Z2 that I'd like to get up and running again and I would really like
to get copies of CDOS and any Cromemco specific utils, thanks.
Curt
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11:11 p.m.
New subject: Some said they have CDOS and Cromemco disks
From: "Curt @ Atari Museum" <curt at atarimuseum.com>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:15 PM
Hi,
Some recently mentioned that they had a significant amount of Cromemco
software, if that person would be willing to allow me to make dup's of
their disks I would appreciate it, I have a CP/M system with both 5.25"
and 8" disks on it so I can handle reading both types, I have a Z2 that
I'd like to get up and running again and I would really like to get copies
of CDOS and any Cromemco specific utils, thanks.
Curt
I have one copy of CDOS posted on my site but it is messed up. I will be
posting different CDOS files etc very soon (hopefully this weekend).
I have a few different CDOS's, application software (assembler, 2 different
basics, etc), 2 different CROMIX OS's, and more.
The problem with Cromemco is the first track is formatted FM even on double
density disks. Many PC's can not write bootable Cromemco disks.
Dave Dunfield is working on some software that sends Cromemco disk images
over a serial port to Cromemco's RDOS to create disks with any PC that has a
serial port.
Randy
www.s100-manuals.com
15 Apr
15 Apr
4:18 p.m.
New subject: Some said they have CDOS and Cromemco disks
I am basically in the same boat. I have a Z2, no diskette (well, it had
one, but it was seriously warped).
A 5.25" disk image, along with a way to send it via a serial port would be
just the ticket.
Any developments since 3/25?
Jay Jaeger
At 01:11 AM 3/26/2005 -0600, Randy McLaughlin wrote:
From: "Curt @ Atari Museum" <curt at
atarimuseum.com>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:15 PM
---
Jay R. Jaeger The Computer Collection
cube1 at charter.net
Hi,
Some recently mentioned that they had a significant amount of Cromemco
software, if that person would be willing to allow me to make dup's of
their disks I would appreciate it, I have a CP/M system with both 5.25"
and 8" disks on it so I can handle reading both types, I have a Z2 that
I'd like to get up and running again and I would really like to get
copies of CDOS and any Cromemco specific utils, thanks.
Curt
I have one copy of CDOS posted on my site but it is messed up. I will be
posting different CDOS files etc very soon (hopefully this weekend).
I have a few different CDOS's, application software (assembler, 2
different basics, etc), 2 different CROMIX OS's, and more.
The problem with Cromemco is the first track is formatted FM even on
double density disks. Many PC's can not write bootable Cromemco disks.
Dave Dunfield is working on some software that sends Cromemco disk images
over a serial port to Cromemco's RDOS to create disks with any PC that has
a serial port.
Randy
www.s100-manuals.com
6:47 p.m.
New subject: Some said they have CDOS and Cromemco disks
Jay Jaeger wrote:
I am basically in the same boat. I have a Z2, no
diskette (well, it had
one, but it was seriously warped).
A 5.25" disk image, along with a way to send it via a serial port would
be just the ticket.
Any developments since 3/25?
I have a Z2D sitting in Arizona, and hope to pick it up in early- or
mid-May. I haven't seen it yet. It came with several boxes of 5.25"
floppy disks, but the donor had no idea what's on them, and most of them
have at least a couple of conflicting labels. I've also been looking
around for single-density drives for my PeeCee in preparation for
transcribing whatever *is* on those disks, and have found a couple, but
I haven't tested anything yet.
Being this busy is good for the toy *budget*, but it sucks for play time.
As soon as I get the system & disks home, and figure out how to image
them, I'll make available whatever I've got.
Doc
7:06 p.m.
New subject: Some said they have CDOS and Cromemco disks
From: "Doc Shipley" <doc at mdrconsult.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:47 PM
Jay Jaeger wrote:
Adding a "single-density" drive to a PC does not give you the ability to
read single density.
The PC itself is what needs to be able to handle FM.
Randy
www.s100-manuals.com
I am basically in the same boat. I have a Z2, no
diskette (well, it had
one, but it was seriously warped).
A 5.25" disk image, along with a way to send it via a serial port would
be just the ticket.
Any developments since 3/25?
I have a Z2D sitting in Arizona, and hope to pick it up in early- or
mid-May. I haven't seen it yet. It came with several boxes of 5.25"
floppy disks, but the donor had no idea what's on them, and most of them
have at least a couple of conflicting labels. I've also been looking
around for single-density drives for my PeeCee in preparation for
transcribing whatever *is* on those disks, and have found a couple, but I
haven't tested anything yet.
Being this busy is good for the toy *budget*, but it sucks for play
time.
As soon as I get the system & disks home, and figure out how to image
them, I'll make available whatever I've got.
Doc
7:14 p.m.
New subject: Some said they have CDOS and Cromemco disks
Randy McLaughlin wrote:
Adding a "single-density" drive to a PC does
not give you the ability to
read single density.
The PC itself is what needs to be able to handle FM.
Yes, I know. Believe it or not, I've been paying close attention to
the recent related threads. :)
I've got an ISA Catweasel that ought to fly, but what I'm really
counting on is the couple of 386-era I/O controllers I have stashed for
just such an occasion. I also have at least one working 486 m/b that
allows turning off the onboard FDC.
Plus, I've got you guys for resource, right?
Doc
7:38 p.m.
New subject: Some said they have CDOS and Cromemco disks
From: "Doc Shipley" <doc at mdrconsult.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:14 PM
Randy McLaughlin wrote:
Keeping in mind that we are talking about 5.25" Cromemco disks:
I'm always willing to share my experience in hooking up drives to PC's.
If all you are interested in is reading you can use a 1.2mb drive.
For writing it is best to use 360K disks.
Cromemco's with 4FDC's can only handle FM. All other disk controllers can
handle either FM or MFM.
For MFM any PC will work for reading writing the files, the first boot track
is always FM.
If you want the PC to read or write the boot track you must have a
compatible controller.
Randy
Adding a "single-density" drive to a PC
does not give you the ability to
read single density.
The PC itself is what needs to be able to handle FM.
Yes, I know. Believe it or not, I've been paying close attention to the
recent related threads. :)
I've got an ISA Catweasel that ought to fly, but what I'm really
counting on is the couple of 386-era I/O controllers I have stashed for
just such an occasion. I also have at least one working 486 m/b that
allows turning off the onboard FDC.
Plus, I've got you guys for resource, right?
Doc
8:58 p.m.
New subject: Some said they have CDOS and Cromemco disks
Hmm. I have here a Maynard "Sandstar" controller with a NEC D765AC and
some special software called "JFORMAT-2" which has parameterized disk
tables. It handles 8" single density 3740, so it ought to be able to
handle this single density as well so I could format, yes?
(I also have a couple of real IBM PC's I can throw it into).
If so, then presumably I could format some disks (I have some disks I had
for my old Atari 800 that I expect would work), and get the rest from Mr.
Dunfield, yes? [I'd need to know where to download that stuff from...]
Jay
At 09:38 PM 4/15/2005 -0500, Randy McLaughlin wrote:
From: "Doc Shipley" <doc at
mdrconsult.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 9:14 PM
---
Jay R. Jaeger The Computer Collection
cube1 at charter.net
Randy McLaughlin wrote:
Keeping in mind that we are talking about 5.25" Cromemco disks:
I'm always willing to share my experience in hooking up drives to PC's.
If all you are interested in is reading you can use a 1.2mb drive.
For writing it is best to use 360K disks.
Cromemco's with 4FDC's can only handle FM. All other disk controllers can
handle either FM or MFM.
For MFM any PC will work for reading writing the files, the first boot
track is always FM.
If you want the PC to read or write the boot track you must have a
compatible controller.
Randy
Adding a "single-density" drive to a PC
does not give you the ability to
read single density.
The PC itself is what needs to be able to handle FM.
Yes, I know. Believe it or not, I've been paying close attention to
the recent related threads. :)
I've got an ISA Catweasel that ought to fly, but what I'm really
counting on is the couple of 386-era I/O controllers I have stashed for
just such an occasion. I also have at least one working 486 m/b that
allows turning off the onboard FDC.
Plus, I've got you guys for resource, right?
Doc
9:42 p.m.
New subject: Some said they have CDOS and Cromemco disks
From: "Jay Jaeger" <cube1 at charter.net>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:58 PM
Hmm. I have here a Maynard "Sandstar"
controller with a NEC D765AC and
some special software called "JFORMAT-2" which has parameterized disk
tables. It handles 8" single density 3740, so it ought to be able to
handle this single density as well so I could format, yes?
(I also have a couple of real IBM PC's I can throw it into).
If so, then presumably I could format some disks (I have some disks I had
for my old Atari 800 that I expect would work), and get the rest from Mr.
Dunfield, yes? [I'd need to know where to download that stuff from...]
Jay
<snip>
Technically FM on 8" (250k) and FM on 5.25" (125k) are different but only in
transfer rate. If it handles 3740 as well as IBM 360K then it should handle
most CP/M and all CDOS formats.
The only real issues are either differences in different soft-sectored
controllers (Western Digital based chips have some formats that the 765
based chips can't handle but are rarely used) or the basic ability to handle
FM (as in 3740 format).
Randy
www.s100-manuals.com
7:20 p.m.
New subject: Some said they have CDOS and Cromemco disks
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Randy McLaughlin wrote:
From: "Doc Shipley" <doc at
mdrconsult.com>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:47 PM
Right. And you also need good software tools. In my experience, 22disk
is hardly useful. Anadisk is good. Xenocopy is way better.
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Jay Jaeger wrote:
Adding a "single-density" drive to a PC does not give you the ability to
read single density.
The PC itself is what needs to be able to handle FM. I am basically in the same boat. I have a Z2, no
diskette (well, it had
one, but it was seriously warped).
A 5.25" disk image, along with a way to send it via a serial port would
be just the ticket.
Any developments since 3/25?
I have a Z2D sitting in Arizona, and hope to pick it up in early- or
mid-May. I haven't seen it yet. It came with several boxes of 5.25"
floppy disks, but the donor had no idea what's on them, and most of them
have at least a couple of conflicting labels. I've also been looking
around for single-density drives for my PeeCee in preparation for
transcribing whatever *is* on those disks, and have found a couple, but I
haven't tested anything yet.
Being this busy is good for the toy *budget*, but it sucks for play
time.
As soon as I get the system & disks home, and figure out how to image
them, I'll make available whatever I've got.
Doc
25 Mar
25 Mar
9:21 p.m.
New subject: Annex Terminal Servers...
Anyone here familiar with Annex Terminal Servers, I have a pair of them,
I only plan to use one so if anyone is interested let me know...
Meanwhile...
I have one unit up and working like a charm on my vax system so I can
use my PC to control the console port over my LAN. The Annex Term
server is working fine on my local subnet, however for some reason it
will not talk across from a remote system on another subnet through my
firewall/router...
I have successfully connected to a Win 2K Telnet server that I set to
the same IP, so I know the firewall port forward settings are fine and
the port is open on 23 and communicating... however the Annex term
server seems to see the traffic, but just wont allow a cross subnet
connection to occur...
Does anyone have any familiarity with Bay Networks Annex term
servers? Is it possible to communicate across multiple subnets
to/from this unit? I had hoped to give remote access to my Vax to a
friend of mine, he and I have been working on restoring numerous 9
Tracks and RL02's and I'd hope to have given him remote access without
having to tie up an entire PC to do the job, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Curt
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