On 02/10/2015 01:13 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
From: Jon
Elson
How about John von Neumann? Geez, I think he
really ranks above Turing,
at least as far as building real machines.
This is unclear, for a whole host of reasons.
First, you should look at Turing's ACE.
Yes, I'm aware of the ACE.
Turing was heavily involved in early computer work
from the end of WWII until
his death (e.g. at the start of that period, he attended the Symposium on
Large Scale Digital Calculating Machinery at Hardvard in February, 1947).
Yes, and
I think that's where the Harvard Architecture vs.
von Neumann architecture
definition came from.
Second, when assessing the relative important of the
contributions of Turing
and von Neumann, there are a number of things to take into account.
First, one needs to be aware that he and Turing were close colleagues
Yes, aware of
that, too.
; before
WWII, Turing spent a year at Princeton working with von Neumann (who wanted
to hire Turing as his assistant, at the end of Turing's year there). During
WWII, Turing spent a long visit in the US (from November 1942 to March 1943),
during which he spent a lot of time at Bell Labs, where when not doing
war-work, he discussed computing machine with people there, including
Shannon. So Turing's ideas on stored program computing devices were well
known to von Neumann - who in fact seems to have always credited Turing with
the idea (see Copeland, "Turing", pp. 130-131).
Second, the 'EDVAC Report', despite the fact that it had only von Neumann's
name on it, in fact reported on a series of design discussions between he,
Eckert and Mauchly - and the latter two were rather annoyed that their
contributions were not adequately recognized in it.
Yes, I should have included
Eckert and Mauchly, too, but the
list was getting long.
Jon