At 02:46 PM 10/5/2004, you wrote: Cray isn't in my search strings. Maybe it should be. Cool! The picture of Cray and the black box is just what I picture in my mind when I read Brunner's Stand on Zanzibar. 1 ns per foot. A fast computer has to be small. Awesome (not in an air-headed way) , thanks for pointing that out! Ed K.