5 Mar
1998
5 Mar
'98
7:16 a.m.
Just a clip from the lineprinter:
Ready
sy
RSTS V8.0-07 GALAXIA status at 04-Mar-98 03:06 PM Up: 5:07
Job Who Where What Size State Run-Time Pri/RB RTS
1 [SELF] Det ERRCPY 5/32K SR 1:47.7 0/6 BAS2F
2 [SELF] KB0 SYSTAT 13/32K RN Lck 1.3 -8/6 BAS2F
Busy Devices: None
[clip...]
I've deleted most of the old accounts - The disk was at 8% free when I got it,
now it's at 88% free... The accounts remaining look like they have system
stuff in them, or are refrenced in the start-up files. I'm backing them up
to DECtapes, then deleting them to see what happens. If it runs a month without
the files on the tape, I wipe the tape. (Write nulls over it)
I'm moving the 44 to school, there I'm going to attach it to the nameserver
(Linux) and kludge up something interesting so that people can telnet to the
RSTS without having to have accounts on the Linux box. Right now I'm working
out a plan with the 23+. The move is scheduled for Monday. Fun! I get to lug
the RA81 up a flight of stairs! :)
Oh, and does removing the account (With REACT) kill the directory by NULLing
over it, or do I have to go do something else to make sure they're gone?
I did see a few accounting-type things in the [5x,*] area, so I killed them all
sight-unseen. The system runs OK now... Kermit is still here, I assume I can
keep that... OPSER and the batch stuff are missing, and the OS source has been
removed, but if Kermit works I may be able to go find some nice person
with 8.0-07 and get the files needed. I renamed the machine GALAXIA, and
made a copy of the old Monitor .SIL so I can kill those too.
Basically now, without some real digging, you can't tell where the machine came
from.
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5 Mar
5 Mar
7:27 a.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
Hey, does anyone have a list of classic systems that people have connected
to the internet? I know I've heard you guys several times talking about
doing it. Well?
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7:46 a.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
John Higginbotham wrote:
Hey, does anyone have a list of classic systems that
people have connected
to the internet? I know I've heard you guys several times talking about
doing it. Well?
Frank Larosa of Searchlight has a TRS-80 model 3 or 4 tied to the net as a
Telnet server (by way of his 486 or Pentium) at
http://www.searchlight.com/frank/milo.htm
Just click on the photo or use the telnet address listed on his page.
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RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144
Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991
Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com
Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/
* Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers*
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10:31 a.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
Just what exactly does it take to 'telnet' to a site...
CORD
Russ Blakeman wrote:
John Higginbotham wrote:
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| Cord G. Coslor : archive(a)navix.net |\
| Deanna S. Wynn : deannasue(a)navix.net | |
|---------------------------------------------------| |
| http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/4395 | |
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Hey, does anyone have a list of classic systems
that people have connected
to the internet? I know I've heard you guys several times talking about
doing it. Well?
Frank Larosa of Searchlight has a TRS-80 model 3 or 4 tied to the net as a
Telnet server (by way of his 486 or Pentium) at
http://www.searchlight.com/frank/milo.htm
Just click on the photo or use the telnet address listed on his page.
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Russ Blakeman
RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144
Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991
Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com
Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/
* Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers*
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11:02 a.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
Cord Coslor & Deanna Wynn wrote:
Just what exactly does it take to 'telnet' to
a site...
Essentially the net address directs to an outdial line at the server, and when you
"telnet" you are basically connecting to the telephone lines from the internet.
It
takes an ISP that can provide the service and a dedicated inbound line to a BBS,
or in some cases I think an ISDN line full time can handle it. I've never done it
but dealved into it some when considering putting a link to my BBS (when I had it
running). At $155 month for a connection from the ISP, I declined.
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Russ Blakeman
RB Custom Services / Rt. 1 Box 62E / Harned, KY USA 40144
Phone: (502) 756-1749 / Data/Fax:(502) 756-6991
Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com
Website: http://members.tripod.com/~RHBLAKE/
* Parts/Service/Upgrades and more for MOST Computers*
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2:55 p.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Russ Blakeman wrote:
Cord Coslor & Deanna Wynn wrote:
Huh?
Telnet is a way to connect to other hosts on the internet. For instance,
you could go:
telnet wco.com
and get the login: prompt for the ISP I use.
telnet whitehouse.gov
will get you nowhere as it refuses the connection.
I think Russ may have been thinking of Telenet, which was an X.25 packet
switch data service that Sprint use to offer.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0
See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
Just what exactly does it take to
'telnet' to a site...
Essentially the net address directs to an outdial line at the server,
and when you "telnet" you are basically connecting to the telephone
lines from the internet. It takes an ISP that can provide the service
and a dedicated inbound line to a BBS, or in some cases I think an ISDN
line full time can handle it. I've never done it but dealved into it
some when considering putting a link to my BBS (when I had it running).
At $155 month for a connection from the ISP, I declined. 
11:04 a.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
Cord Coslor & Deanna Wynn wrote:
Just what exactly does it take to 'telnet' to a site...
$telnet <hostname.domain>
;-)
Seriously - all you need is a telnet client for your OS - Windoze95 and
(I think) all unix flavours have it as standard. I dont know about
others, what are you using?
2:57 p.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Pete Joules wrote:
Seriously - all you need is a telnet client for your
OS - Windoze95 and
(I think) all unix flavours have it as standard. I dont know about
others, what are you using?
The Win95 telnet is an abomination. Is there a well written one available
for download somewhere?
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass
Coming Soon...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0
See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
4 Mar
4 Mar
8:50 a.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
On 5 Mar 98 at 17:57, Sam Ismail wrote:
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Pete Joules wrote:
Try the SBI list site at
http://dkeep.com/sbi/sbi_link.htm
They have a lot of info and links. I just installed a shareware prg
on my win 3.1 called comt. Not bad.
ciao larry
lwalkerN0spaM(a)interlog.com
Seriously - all you need is a telnet client for
your OS - Windoze95 and
(I think) all unix flavours have it as standard. I dont know about
others, what are you using?
The Win95 telnet is an abomination. Is there a well written one available
for download somewhere?
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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6 Mar
6 Mar
9:11 a.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
On 5 Mar 98 at 17:57, Sam Ismail wrote:
What about Anzio Lite? This thing does the 127 ascii for
the del for the backspace key correctly for the unix and vaxens and
does different VT emulation really good.
The cost? $25 to get free of nagware. :)
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Pete Joules wrote:
Try the SBI list site at
http://dkeep.com/sbi/sbi_link.htm
They have a lot of info and links. I just installed a shareware prg
on my win 3.1 called comt. Not bad.
ciao larry
lwalkerN0spaM(a)interlog.com
Seriously - all you need is a telnet client for
your OS - Windoze95 and
(I think) all unix flavours have it as standard. I dont know about
others, what are you using?
The Win95 telnet is an abomination. Is there a well written one available
for download somewhere?
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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2:54 p.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
The one that I like the best and is *free* is Tera Term. You can find it
at http://www.windows95.com in the network tools section. It has been
rock-solid and has a lot of nifty features, as well as all kinds of
emulations. In fact, I am using it right now, via my unix box at work....
Aaron
On Fri, 6 Mar 1998 jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca wrote:
On 5 Mar 98
at 17:57, Sam Ismail wrote:
What about Anzio Lite? This thing does the 127 ascii for
the del for the backspace key correctly for the unix and vaxens and
does different VT emulation really good.
The cost? $25 to get free of nagware. :)
Jason D.
email: jpero(a)cgo.wave.ca
Pero, Jason D.
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Pete Joules wrote:
Try the SBI list site at
http://dkeep.com/sbi/sbi_link.htm
They have a lot of info and links. I just installed a shareware prg
on my win 3.1 called comt. Not bad.
ciao larry
lwalkerN0spaM(a)interlog.com
Seriously - all you need is a telnet client for
your OS - Windoze95 and
(I think) all unix flavours have it as standard. I dont know about
others, what are you using?
The Win95 telnet is an abomination. Is there a well written one available
for download somewhere?
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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7 Mar
7 Mar
6:51 a.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
;-) Clearing the snow from my glasses, I saw Aaron Christopher Finney typed:
The one that I like the best and is *free* is Tera
Term. You can find it
at http://www.windows95.com in the network tools section. It has been
rock-solid and has a lot of nifty features, as well as all kinds of
emulations. In fact, I am using it right now, via my unix box at work....
Here's my two cents.... and it pertains!
I use NetTerm -- it can be used as a standard Telnet client, and it can
also be used as a standard telecommunications software (to connect to
BBS's, etc.). AAMAF, it's the only one that I've found that works well with
my Tandy 200 when I want to xfer files between my laptop and my WinNT box.
(oh, and it does work very well for *nix boxen as well.)
Hope this helps,
"Merch"
--
Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed,
Owner, MerchWare | nuclear warhead disarmament should
zmerch(a)northernway.net | *not* be your first career choice.
6 Mar
6 Mar
4:38 a.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
Hi Sam,
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:57:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)wco.com>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Old computer still accessible on internet?
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Pete Joules wrote:
Windows is an abomination. However, when I've been forced to
work with it and needed a telnet I always used QVT Telnet. See:
http://mirror.queen.it/cws/32term-reviews.html
for reviews of various Windows telnet apps, and:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~qpcsoft/
for the WinQVT home page. This is shareware, not freeware.
For an _excellent_ freeware telnet, I recommend NetBSD or Linux.
--jmg
Seriously - all you need is a telnet client for
your OS - Windoze95 and
(I think) all unix flavours have it as standard. I dont know about
others, what are you using?
The Win95 telnet is an abomination. Is there a well written one available
for download somewhere?
6:26 a.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
J. Maynard Gelinas wrote:
For an _excellent_ freeware telnet, I recommend NetBSD or Linux.
I'll second that, I run Linux as my main PC OS at home and only boot
windows when I have to. At work most of my time is spent at a windows
machine running a commercial package called TinyTerm to telnet into our
RS6000. TinyTerm is produced by Century Software, I don't have their
URL to hand.
Regards
Pete
4:40 p.m.
New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:57:07 -0800 (PST), you said:
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Pete Joules wrote:
You might check www.tucows.com
_______________
Barry Peterson bmpete(a)swbell.net
Husband to Diane, Father to Doug,
Grandfather to Zoe and Tegan.
Seriously - all you need is a telnet client for
your OS - Windoze95 and
(I think) all unix flavours have it as standard. I dont know about
others, what are you using?
The Win95 telnet is an abomination. Is there a well written one available
for download somewhere? 
5 Mar
5 Mar
8:38 a.m.
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3:44 a.m.
New subject: Broken TRS-80 Model 1
I bought what I was told was a TRS-80 Model 2 from a guy but when it
arrived it turned out to be a Model 1. CPU and monitor only. The
monitor doesn't power on at all. When I hooked up the cpu to my good
Model 1 monitor I get graphic chars in place of the normal text.
Otherwise the cpu unit seems ok. Any ideas on what may be wrong with
the cpu or the monitor? I'm not sure I'm really interested in
messing with either of these items as I have a good working Model 1.
I could keep them as parts, for those parts that may be good, or if
someone is really interested, I could possibly part with them.
Thanks.
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David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)neosoft.com
http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw
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6 Mar
4:19 a.m.
New subject: Broken TRS-80 Model 1
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:26:04 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Broken TRS-80 Model 1
[snip]
Well, as I said last week, these monitors are about
the most dangerous
piece of classic computer equipment to repair. Apart from the video input
circuit (before the opto-isolator), everything inside them is directly
connected to the power line. It's like an AA5 radio, with the added
advantage of an EHT power supply.
[snip]
I really
don't recomend this one for a novice.
Well Tony, you convinced me last week. I have this _survival_
thing going, and don't want to cut my streak of good luck short any
time soon.
Seems like old hardware is more available than old software
and documentation. I suppose copyrights still exist on this stuff,
but it seems like the web is the perfect place for old tech reference
manuals and schematics. Wasn't Allison involved with the TRS-80
development? Know anyone at RS who might be able to sign off on
putting this stuff into the public domain so our types can publish
this documentation?
--jmg
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5 Mar
5 Mar
3:49 a.m.
New subject: Strange PCjr found
I was in a thrift store during lunch and saw a PCjr which had a
second box attached to the top which contained a second floppy drive.
This almost doubled the height of the system and there was a larger
side car type box on the side as well. Any ideas as to what this may
have been? Was it just for adding a second floppy maybe? I'm
thinking about going back by and picking it up. They also had a
VIC-20 with the VIC version of the floppy drive which I think I grab
as I don't have one of those.
Thanks.
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David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)neosoft.com
http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw
5:44 p.m.
New subject: Strange PCjr found
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, David Williams wrote:
I was in a thrift store during lunch and saw a PCjr
which had a
second box attached to the top which contained a second floppy drive.
This almost doubled the height of the system and there was a larger
side car type box on the side as well. Any ideas as to what this may
have been?
As I recall, the add-on box on the top provided a place the the second
floppy drive to live, and the double size side car provided connectivity
to the system bus for the addition of a memory add-on that could be
installed in the upper box.
-jim
---
jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com
The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw
Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174
6 Mar
6 Mar
2:48 a.m.
New subject: Strange PCjr found
At 02:49 PM 3/5/98 +0000, you wrote:
I was in a thrift store during lunch and saw a PCjr
which had a
second box attached to the top which contained a second floppy drive.
This almost doubled the height of the system and there was a larger
side car type box on the side as well. Any ideas as to what this may
have been? Was it just for adding a second floppy maybe? I'm
thinking about going back by and picking it up.
The box on top could be from Rapport/Racore (Racore now does routers and
such), PC Enterprises (still in biz in Jersey, I think) or one other
outfit. It may also have up to a 384K RAM expansion in it, as well as a 10,
20 or possibly a 30MB disk in it--but if you saw a floppy there probably
isn't a disk.
The sidecar could be memory, a parallel printer port attachment, or one of
several other dongles that came out for jr. I had a Microsoft 128K sidecar
on mine, included a bus mouse--can't remember the name of the product, and
I think my wife sold it and the docs for it long ago.
For what it's worth, the connector on the right side of the case is
essentially a bus extension, and there were several interesting products
that used it to add stuff that IBM never imagined.
Some day I'll tell about the time I got a call from the PCjr team at
Teledyne in Lewisburg (they fab'd the Peanut for IBM).
David Williams - Computer Packrat
dlw(a)neosoft.com
http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw
David Wollmann
dwollmann(a)ibmhelp.com
DST ibmhelp.com Technical Support
http://www.ibmhelp.com/
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5 Mar
8:36 a.m.
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New subject: Old computer still accessible on internet?
> Hey, does anyone have a list of classic systems
that people have connected
> to the internet? I know I've heard you guys several times talking about
> doing it. Well?
RCS/RI has a VAX-11/750 on the net from time to time.
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
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dlw＠neosoft.com -
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lwalker＠mail.interlog.com -
pjoules＠enterprise.net -
rhblake＠bbtel.com -
sethm＠loomcom.com -
shoppa＠alph02.triumf.ca -
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zmerch＠northernway.net