9 Apr
2004
9 Apr
'04
4:38 p.m.
Did anyone check on this and follow up (My previous post about a truckload
of PDP parts & cpus). The guy apparently put it up on ebay?
Jay
9 Apr
9 Apr
4:53 p.m.
At 09:38 PM 4/9/04, you wrote:
Did anyone check on this and follow up (My previous
post about a truckload
of PDP parts & cpus). The guy apparently put it up on ebay?
I sent an e-mail to him through eBay, asking about setting up a time to
inspect the contents of the truck, but I haven't received a response from him.
Cheers,
Dan
4:57 p.m.
yes but I posted this stuff to this list before he put it on ebay and
someone said they were contacting him :\
J
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From: "Dan Veeneman" <dan(a)ekoan.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: truckload of PDP stuff
him.
At 09:38 PM 4/9/04, you wrote:
>Did anyone check on this and follow up (My previous post about a
truckload
of PDP parts
& cpus). The guy apparently put it up on ebay?
I sent an e-mail to him through eBay, asking about setting up a time to
inspect the contents of the truck, but I haven't received a response from
Cheers,
Dan
6:37 p.m.
I also attempted contact via e-Mail...multiple times...no response.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
>> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jay West
>> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 9:39 PM
>> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>> Subject: truckload of PDP stuff
>>
>> Did anyone check on this and follow up (My previous post
>> about a truckload of PDP parts & cpus). The guy apparently
>> put it up on ebay?
>>
>> Jay
>>
13 Apr
13 Apr
10:37 a.m.
>> Did anyone check on this and follow up (My
previous post
I also attempted contact via e-Mail...multiple
times...no response.
I must have the right touch. The prime eBay/eMail contact was
pretty dead in the beginning (giving Sorry's to my questions) but
he did give this... call "610-825-4748 to make arrangements, ask
for Pete"
more info just now...
Pete (and later Brian) told me that there are:
"both pdp 11/40s and 34s. We have about 5 processors
and other assorted parts." and then "There is also at least
1 DECpack" all on pallets.
Other details: they are de-racked and the former spare time
gizmos of Pete, who found he didn't have the time to play...
sound like a little under 1 ton.
John A.
share and enjoy. mmmm 34's....
noon
I'm about 45 minutes from this location and would be willing to help
coordinate pickup and staging if we wanted to try to do a bulk buy.
What do you all think would be the best way to proceed?
-- Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of John Allain
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:38 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: truckload of PDP stuff
>> Did anyone check on this and follow up (My
previous post
I also attempted contact via e-Mail...multiple
times...no response.
I must have the right touch. The prime eBay/eMail contact was
pretty dead in the beginning (giving Sorry's to my questions) but
he did give this... call "610-825-4748 to make arrangements, ask
for Pete"
more info just now...
Pete (and later Brian) told me that there are:
"both pdp 11/40s and 34s. We have about 5 processors
and other assorted parts." and then "There is also at least
1 DECpack" all on pallets.
Other details: they are de-racked and the former spare time
gizmos of Pete, who found he didn't have the time to play...
sound like a little under 1 ton.
John A.
share and enjoy. mmmm 34's....
2:31 p.m.
Count me in!
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
>> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tony Eros
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:00 PM
>> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
>> Subject: RE: truckload of PDP stuff
>>
>> I'm about 45 minutes from this location and would be
>> willing to help coordinate pickup and staging if we wanted
>> to try to do a bulk buy.
>>
>> What do you all think would be the best way to proceed?
>>
>> -- Tony
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
>> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]
>> On Behalf Of John Allain
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:38 PM
>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>> Subject: Re: truckload of PDP stuff
>>
>> >>> Did anyone check on this and follow up (My previous post
>>
>> > I also attempted contact via e-Mail...multiple times...no
>> response.
>>
>> I must have the right touch. The prime eBay/eMail contact
>> was pretty dead in the beginning (giving Sorry's to my
>> questions) but he did give this... call "610-825-4748 to
>> make arrangements, ask for Pete"
>>
>> more info just now...
>>
>> Pete (and later Brian) told me that there are:
>> "both pdp 11/40s and 34s. We have about 5 processors and
>> other assorted parts." and then "There is also at least
>> 1 DECpack" all on pallets.
>> Other details: they are de-racked and the former spare time
>> gizmos of Pete, who found he didn't have the time to play...
>>
>> sound like a little under 1 ton.
>>
>> John A.
>> share and enjoy. mmmm 34's....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
5:58 p.m.
What do you all think would be the best way to proceed?
Bidding closes in 33 hours.
One person collects reservations for certain machines,
along with promises of payment in exchange for that
portion of the lot. The problem is that crate&ship of a
typical '11 would probably be over $100 each piece.
Are people still interested? So far only the interest
shown is for 2 of 5 computers.
John A.
14 Apr
14 Apr
6:25 a.m.
I'm more of a Qbus guy, and this looks to be all Unibus.
(Though I do have 2 Unibussers)
Someone on the list has contacted me stating his
intent to be the winning bidder. Perhaps he (BCC'ed herein)
should make his name public so people can sub-bid to him
for individual machines in the lot.
John A.
8:22 a.m.
"John Allain" wrote:
Someone on the list has contacted me stating his
intent to be the winning bidder. Perhaps he (BCC'ed herein)
should make his name public so people can sub-bid to him
for individual machines in the lot.
Well, I'd certainly kick in some money for anything unibus (I have a
thing about hex cards :-)
I could use a 256k memory card for an 11/34a. And a FP card (or set of
cpu spares).
I could pretty much anything to do with an 11/44 - memory, box, etc...
more RL02 carts are always handy.
And who could'nt use an rk05? :-)
-brad
15 Apr
15 Apr
11:06 a.m.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem+ACY-item+AD0-4122358161
Winning bid: US +ACQ-1,275.00
Another, gulp... Successful rescue+ACE-
John A.
26 Apr
26 Apr
7:22 p.m.
Just to let you know it all showed up today (about a week early).
Because I didn't receive any (significant) notice, I didn't take any
pictures...you'd have been disappointed anyway.
It was 2550 lbs of stuff on 3 pallets stacked to 4'.
The are some interesting items, but nothing there that doesn't require a
fair amount of TLC. I think if it were an ad for a used car it would be
"some work required". :-)
Here's a list of the major items:
* RL01 (2)
* RK05 (2)
* 11/34 (3)
* 11/05 or 11/10 (can't tell, part of front panel missing)
* 11/40 mostly complete but has front panel whose switches were
abused (broken/missing). The plexi is intact.
* 11/40 badly abused. Front panel (and switches) intact (missing
1 switch cover)
* 11/50 (I was jumping up and down when I saw this until I figured
out it had no cards...nada.)
* BA11F expansion box full of cards (21")
* RK11D (2+)
* RK11C (2)
* TU60
* RX01 (or RX02) pretty horrible shape though
* VT100 + 4 keyboards (all missing some keys)
* various communications bulkheads
* hardware (rails, doors, etc)
In going through one of the small boxes I found a very strange looking
cable. It had flip chip paddles on one end and centronics connectors
(2) on the other. The cable itself was twisted pair wire bunched
together. It took a few minutes to realize that this cable goes to
between a Fabritec memory expansion and an 8/I. This cable is
completely undocumented!!!
--
TTFN - Guy
8:14 p.m.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 09:22:07PM -0700, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
It was 2550 lbs of stuff on 3 pallets stacked to
4'.
Whee!
Here's a list of the major items:
* RL01 (2)
* RK05 (2)
Cool... disks are always handy.
* 11/34 (3)
* 11/05 or 11/10 (can't tell, part of front panel missing)
* 11/40 mostly complete but has front panel whose switches were
abused (broken/missing). The plexi is intact.
* 11/40 badly abused. Front panel (and switches) intact (missing
1 switch cover)
* 11/50 (I was jumping up and down when I saw this until I figured
out it had no cards...nada.)
Hmm... think it's possible to get two working 11/40s out of the pile, or
does it look like one working 11/40 and a donor? It should be possible to
cast some replica switch toggles, but it may or may not be worth it.
* BA11F expansion box full of cards (21")
* RK11D (2+)
* RK11C (2)
Handy. Do either of the RK11Cs have the blinky-lights panel?
In going through one of the small boxes I found a very
strange looking
cable. It had flip chip paddles on one end and centronics connectors
(2) on the other. The cable itself was twisted pair wire bunched
together. It took a few minutes to realize that this cable goes to
between a Fabritec memory expansion and an 8/I. This cable is
completely undocumented!!!
Wow! I don't have a Fabritek memory box, but I do have an unexpanded
-8/i. I'd seriously consider making a 1U memory enclosure with some
battery-backed SRAM. Is there any chance you'd part with the cable?
-ethan
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10:20 p.m.
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 22:14, Ethan Dicks wrote:
Sadly no, but I figure that should be (relatively) easy to replicate.
Not a chance! :-)
I have a Fabritek memory box *and* and 8/i but until today didn't have
the cable. Oooo, now I can have an 8/i with 32K!!! Of course I also
have to get the 8/i working first, but hey details! :-)
One of the things that I will be doing in the not too distant future is
documenting the (wiring of the) cable so that others can make duplicates
if they so wish.
--
TTFN - Guy
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 09:22:07PM -0700, Guy
Sotomayor wrote:
Yea, and I managed to get it all apart and stacked so I could get rid of
the blasted pallets in about 3 hours (and it was 90+ today in SJ)!
It was 2550 lbs of stuff on 3 pallets stacked to
4'.
Whee!
Hmm... think it's possible to get two working 11/40s out of the pile, or
does it look like one working 11/40 and a donor? It should be possible to
cast some replica switch toggles, but it may or may not be worth it.
I have a few (spare) 11/40 front panels (no plexi) and many extra switch
covers so that's not a problem.
The abused 11/40's chassis is a bit "tweeked" but at first glance it
doesn't look irreprable. It is missing most (all?) of the CPU cards
though.
* BA11F
expansion box full of cards (21")
* RK11D (2+)
* RK11C (2)
Handy. Do either of the RK11Cs have the blinky-lights panel? In going through one of the small boxes I found a
very strange looking
cable. It had flip chip paddles on one end and centronics connectors
(2) on the other. The cable itself was twisted pair wire bunched
together. It took a few minutes to realize that this cable goes to
between a Fabritec memory expansion and an 8/I. This cable is
completely undocumented!!!
Wow! I don't have a Fabritek memory box, but I do have an unexpanded
-8/i. I'd seriously consider making a 1U memory enclosure with some
battery-backed SRAM. Is there any chance you'd part with the cable? 
27 Apr
27 Apr
noon
Handy. Do either of the RK11Cs have the blinky-lights
panel?
I must get round to adding that to my RK11C (on my 11/45). I have a
couple of the light panels, off DX11s (IBM channel interfaces). Actually,
I have the DX11s too, but without a System/360 or System/370 to connect
them to (The printset I have details the mods to connect to a 370), I
think it would be a sensible idea to move one of the light panels to the
RK11C.
Of course I don't have the right bezel for this, but that can be kludged,
at least for the mmoent.
> In going through one of the small boxes I found a very strange looking
> cable. It had flip chip paddles on one end and centronics connectors
> (2) on the other. The cable itself was twisted pair wire bunched
> together. It took a few minutes to realize that this cable goes to
> between a Fabritec memory expansion and an 8/I. This cable is
> completely undocumented!!!
It can't take that long to buzz out the connections, surely?
-tony
28 Apr
28 Apr
8:07 a.m.
On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 14:00, Tony Duell wrote:
Yea, but you need the cable first!
--
TTFN - Guy
> In going through one of the small boxes I found a very strange looking
> cable. It had flip chip paddles on one end and centronics connectors
> (2) on the other. The cable itself was twisted pair wire bunched
> together. It took a few minutes to realize that this cable goes to
> between a Fabritec memory expansion and an 8/I. This cable is
> completely undocumented!!!
It can't take that long to buzz out the connections, surely? 
8:17 a.m.
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
No, Guy... Tony can do that *without* the cable.
What we did NOT
tell him, of course, is that he wont be getting any drawings either,
so he will have to work with just the PDP8 and the mem box.. ;-)
--f
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It can't
take that long to buzz out the connections, surely?
Yea, but you need the cable first! 
8:24 a.m.
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
No, Guy... Tony can do that *without* the
cable. What we did NOT
tell him, of course, is that he wont be getting any drawings either,
so he will have to work with just the PDP8 and the mem box.. ;-)
Blind-folded, with one arm tied behind his back.
My bets are still on Tony!
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It
can't take that long to buzz out the connections, surely?
Yea, but you need the cable first!
1:38 p.m.
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
No, Guy... Tony can do that *without* the
cable. What we did NOT
Given the prints for the 2 ends (PDP8 and memory box) that doesn't sound
_too_ difficult...
It
can't take that long to buzz out the connections, surely?
Yea, but you need the cable first! tell him, of course, is that he wont be getting any
drawings either,
so he will have to work with just the PDP8 and the mem box.. ;-)
That sounds a little harder, but I can't beleive that reverse-engineering
the memory box (I assume I can get the PDP8 prints from somewhere [1]) is
not going to be any worse than some of the other stuff I've done over the
years [2]. It would take some time, but I think, even if I say so myself,
I'd get it going in the end
[1] If not, then I have to reverse-engineer that end too. More work, but
not beyond me...
[2[ Can you say 'HP9100B'...
-tony
1:36 p.m.
On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 14:00, Tony Duell wrote:
> >
> > > In going through one of the small boxes I found a very strange looking
> > > cable. It had flip chip paddles on one end and centronics connectors
[...]
It can't
take that long to buzz out the connections, surely?
Yea, but you need the cable first! 
26 Apr
26 Apr
8:35 p.m.
Long-time addic^H^H^H^H^H collectors will instantly recognize the expected
Law of the Universe in full operation.
Well, Ashley - see how Stuff pops up?
All we have to do is 'dream' hardware, and Voila! it manifests!
Now all I have to do is figuer out where I'm going to store a lot of my
own computer apparitions. ;}
Cheers
John
14 Apr
14 Apr
3:37 a.m.
I am interested in an 11/40, and possibly more, depending on what
there is, the condition, and completeness. As they have been de-
racked, I can only wonder what state they are in. An 11/34 would
survive this pretty well, but an 11/40 in a BA11-F may not. Also,
have they been stored properly, or left to the elements?
--tom
At 03:37 PM 4/13/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>> Did
anyone check on this and follow up (My previous post
I also attempted contact via e-Mail...multiple
times...no response.
I must have the right touch. The prime eBay/eMail contact was
pretty dead in the beginning (giving Sorry's to my questions) but
he did give this... call "610-825-4748 to make arrangements, ask
for Pete"
more info just now...
Pete (and later Brian) told me that there are:
"both pdp 11/40s and 34s. We have about 5 processors
and other assorted parts." and then "There is also at least
1 DECpack" all on pallets.
Other details: they are de-racked and the former spare time
gizmos of Pete, who found he didn't have the time to play...
sound like a little under 1 ton.
John A.
share and enjoy. mmmm 34's....
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