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On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 3:52 AM PST Alexander Schreiber wrote:
On Fri, Mar
01, 2013 at 09:34:10PM -0800, Chris Tofu wrote:
________________________________ From: Alexander Schreiber
<als at thangorodrim.de> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 8:07 PM Subject: Re:
Raspberry Pi
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:40:48AM -0800, Chris Tofu wrote:
------------------------------ On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 11:04 AM PST Allison
wrote:
>On 02/28/2013 11:45 AM, ben wrote:
>
> That "low price is best trend" I would change. For me a modern
> programing tool is "text editor" and 80x24 text screen on 15"
display.?
> Explain to me why a cheap PC in my home can't keep up to the net
> (windows 7) and a credit card computer can do better for surfing.? Ben.
>
>
>Simple task specialization, and task overhead limiting.? That and in7 is
>just a bigger pig.
>
>The average PC has many tasks running and even then unless the CPU is a
>pig and the graphics unassisted doing a web browse is usually limited to
>only how fast all the data gets there.
>
>However for 80x24 text terminal the cpu overhead is very low and the
>graphics load (screen) lower, linux give you that if you don't run the GUI
>and its very fast.? I know this from running and ARM7 based system at
>300mhz and for text and compiling code for itself the limiting factor is
>actually the disk subystem (a micro SD chip).
>
>To e the raspberry-pi is a great computing resource for embedded tasks.
>
>Allison
? What about security? Does Rpi employ a firewall and virus scanning? And
What on earth for? It is not running Windows, it runs Raspbian (a modified
Debian Wheezy) by default. Aside from the fact that virus scanners are
useless in general.
C: You entirely missed the point apparently. It was being compared to a
Windows box in terms of performance.
That isn't really a valid comparison as your typical Windows box (assuming
it is less than 4 years old) has a _lot_ more memory, storage and much more
CPU and GPU than a Raspberry.
> Most Windows boxes employ a firewall and
> virus scanner (and spam killer, cookie cutter, etc. oi). You haven't noticed
> Norton or Kaspersky slowing down your system?
Not at all, they have absolutely no impact on any of my systems. Which would
be because all my systems run Unix of some sort (mostly Linux, but also
NetBSD and FreeBSD).
Ok so therefore not in a position to discuss whether or not the pi should be compared to
a windows box to begin with. People love to pick fights on topics, all the while loudly
proclaiming they lack all the facts.
> >?
since the pi uses sd storage, it might make more sense to compare it's ?
> >internet capabilities with a tablet or smart phone.
>
> What "internet capabilities"? It is a Linux box. Which mean you can do
pretty
> much anything (within the computational & I/O limits of the box - it won't
> work as an IMAP-Server for 100000 users for example).
>
> C: You're batting a thousand (which seems to be a trend in this discussion).
> Windows boxes (and Linux boxes for that matter) use hard drives. The pi uses
> sd storage. As do smart phones, tablets.
And what exactly does the storage medium have to do with what the system
can do network-wise? For that matter, the Raspberry Pi can use harddrives
just fine: simply attach (via powered hub) a USB disk ...
The issue isn't solely about network specifics. Your ability to load/offload data has
something to do with the overall net experience, I'm sure.
Kind regards,
Alex.
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