On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote: You have to patch VMWare to turn on the MacOS support - it's not available by default. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote: VMWare Player can do it as well, but does need the patch tweak to make it work properly. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

On 19 July 2016 at 16:08, Swift Griggs <swiftgriggs at gmail.com> wrote: That's my impression, yes. I know, because I hackintoshed my PC in London before I left. It was a decent machine off the local Freecycle group -- Core 2 Quad Extreme, 8GB RAM, SATA DVD-RW. No hard disks or graphics card, which I cannibalised off my old PC. As it was the first all-Intel machine I'd had in a long long time -- well over a decade -- I tried hackintoshing it. (At first, it ran Ubuntu, natch, and I also tried Windows 8 on it for a month or so before the eval period expired and it started nagging.) It took days of trial and error but it worked. I intentionally used Snow Leopard (although Mountain Lion was by then current) because [a] I wanted PowerPC app support, mainly for MS Office 2004 and [b] it was an old version already, so probably no patches would come along and break my installtion. It worked fine and was a fast, useful, stable machine. I intentionally didn't try to get sleep/resume working -- it was a desktop; when not in use, I turned it off. One boot in 50 might fail but a press of the reset button and it always came up. Floppy drive and PS/2 ports didn't work, but I could always just reboot into Ubuntu for them. When I get the box over here, I might try to get it running a more modern version, just for kicks. I'm not that rich! I bought a used Mac mini, with my 26Y old Apple ABD keyboard on it. :-) Yes, tried that. OK, never tried that! I'm tempted to, but the machine I'd want to run it on is AMD-based, so I think the chances are not good. Up to a point, yes. But it's still a damned fine desktop, and the least-hassle Unix there is. Ubuntu is getting close, though. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/may/17/computing-opensource http://lifehacker.com/5993401/im-cory-doctorow-and-this-is-how-i-work I have no issues with it myself. I don't use Apple phones or laptops, I don't have a tablet, so the integration features are irrelevant to me. I don't use Apple's email client, chat client, calendar, notes, cloud storage, anything. Mostly I use FOSS and freeware apps, so there's no tie-in for me. But the integration is, I hear, amazing and best-of-breed. I gather they're adding Siri to the next version, macOS Sierra, and after that, there will be more AI features. Not sure that I want any of that, but we'll see. Well, they nearly added ZFS, but bottled out, possibly due to Oracle and its licensing. Now they're working on a new one: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/06/digging-into-the-dev-documentation-for… Partly. ;-) -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R)