On Dec 8, 22:36, Michael Holley wrote: place this This may Eh? Don't believe everything you see in a mailing list archive :-) Something to do with the archive (and maybe the digest? Are you guys getting the list (it's a mailing list, not a group) in digest form?) is misunderstanding something -- and apparently so is your Outlook Express, if it tells you that Tony's messages are anything other than normal ASCII email. Tony's using ELM, a perfectly respected mailer. There's *no* attachment at all in Tony's messages, and if there were, the mailing list would strip it off. What you're seeing are messages without a MIME type, and something is trying to make them fit an inappropriate mould. They don't appear on the list with any attachment when I receive them, and messages I've had from Tony directly certainly are not like that. They have headers like this: From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 03:04:53 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <1070934186.3030.321.camel(a)dhcp166-138.ace.uci.edu> from "Tom Jennings" at Dec 8, 3 05:43:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] Content-Type: text Subject: Re: Disk hardware emulation, was Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM? not like this: Moreover, they have no attachments, no hooks for attachments, and nothing other than correct ASCII headers and plain ASCII text (as, indeed, the headers indicate). Whats in the archive is also plain text, so whatever is deciding that it's "non-text" is wrong. Jay, is something broken? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York