On Mon, 27 Apr 2015, Ian Finder wrote:
On Apr 26, 2015, at 23:22, Tothwolf <tothwolf at
concentric.net> wrote:
Still...I see a lot of people using SMD tantalum
parts to replace SMD
aluminum electrolytics, and after seeing so many of these SMD tantalums
burned to a crisp after they developed internal shorts, I certainly
wouldn't use them for general purpose bypass work. SMD solid polymers
which do not exhibit that type of failure mode are readily available in
the same case sizes (round cans) as the original aluminum electrolytics
and are also available in the same case sizes as SMD tantalums. Not
only that, but solid polymers are less expensive than tantalum parts.
The trick to replacing the aluminum cans with Tantalums is to
over-provision substantially on voltage. A tantalum will eventually
react much more violently to transient spikes than an aluminum can, as
such anomalies slowly degrade the oxide layer in the cap, eventually
leading to thermal runaway.
A popular example are the 47uf 16v SMT cans that are common in Apple
gear. People replace them with 16v tants but they should really be going
up to about 25v.
If you leave adequate headroom in the voltage spec, you will typically
not suffer this failure. Still agree that if you wanna be truly safe
polymer is the way to go.
According to the product engineers at Kemet and AVX whom I contacted when
I was first attempting to understand the mass failures I was seeing on the
boards I have (very old, low volume production, commercial product), solid
tantalum capacitors should generally only be used at half their rated
voltage, and there should be some sort of current limiting to prevent them
from going up in flames and instead
"self-heal" when they do eventually
develop tiny holes in their oxide
layer. The current limiting requirement
makes them less than suitable in these sort of retrofit applications where
they are being used to replace aluminum electrolytics in general purpose
bypass applications on a DC power bus (on my boards, they were used for
/everything/). Having seen first hand what solid tantalum SMD capacitors
can do when they fail short, there is no way I would use them in this
application. Solid polymers or better made modern SMD aluminum
electrolytics are just too easy to obtain...