I've not seen these before, but then I live in the Q-bus world. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120210769260 Are these some sort of serial I/O connectors for use with either top-edge connectors, or in a backplane ? Just curious. . . Tim ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://webmail.aim.com