12 Apr
1999
12 Apr
'99
9:18 p.m.
I think it is now safe to say that the State of Massachusetts is the enemy
of Classic Computer enthusiasts everywhere!
http://cnn.com/NATURE/9904/07/computers.potholes.ap/
"We want people to take those computers out
of the attics, get them out of the landfills and
make use of the good parts," said Rick
Lombardi, spokesman for the department.
"And God knows, we have plenty of potholes
to fill in New England."
This is sickening!
Zane
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13 Apr
13 Apr
3:54 p.m.
New subject: Time to declare State of Massachusetts the ENEMY! Hey!
I read it.. Hmmmmmm...... "Prohibited from dumping computers and cathode
ray tubes
into landfills"... Good time to make the group known. This _could_
actually help
our cause, because anyone who lives in, or has driven in Massachusetts
knows that
they don't know a (expletive deleted)ing thing about fixing potholes!
Recycle
that computer the MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY WAY, Have one of US pick
it up!
Will
"Zane H. Healy" wrote:
I think it is now safe to say that the State of Massachusetts is the enemy
of Classic Computer enthusiasts everywhere!
http://cnn.com/NATURE/9904/07/computers.potholes.ap/
"We want people to take those computers out
of the attics, get them out of the landfills and
make use of the good parts," said Rick
Lombardi, spokesman for the department.
"And God knows, we have plenty of potholes
to fill in New England."
This is sickening!
Zane
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator |
| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast |
| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |
14 Apr
14 Apr
7:57 a.m.
New subject: Time to declare State of Massachusetts the ENEMY! Hey!
Doesn't Allison live in the same town as the developers of this? Have her get a
commando unit together and blow them up (kidding).
Will Emerson wrote:
I read it.. Hmmmmmm...... "Prohibited from
dumping computers and cathode
ray tubes
into landfills"... Good time to make the group known. This _could_
actually help
our cause, because anyone who lives in, or has driven in Massachusetts
knows that
they don't know a (expletive deleted)ing thing about fixing potholes!
Recycle
that computer the MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY WAY, Have one of US pick
it up!
Will
"Zane H. Healy" wrote:
>
> I think it is now safe to say that the State of Massachusetts is the enemy
> of Classic Computer enthusiasts everywhere!
> http://cnn.com/NATURE/9904/07/computers.potholes.ap/
>
> "We want people to take those computers out
> of the attics, get them out of the landfills and
> make use of the good parts," said Rick
> Lombardi, spokesman for the department.
> "And God knows, we have plenty of potholes
> to fill in New England."
>
> This is sickening!
>
> Zane
>
> | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator |
> | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast |
> | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector |
> +----------------------------------+----------------------------+
> | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
> | and Zane's Computer Museum. |
> | http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |
12:53 p.m.
New subject: Time to declare State of Massachusetts the ENEMY! Hey!
I read it.. Hmmmmmm...... "Prohibited from
dumping computers and cathode
ray tubes
into landfills"... Good time to make the group known. This _could_
actually help
our cause, because anyone who lives in, or has driven in Massachusetts
knows that
they don't know a (expletive deleted)ing thing about fixing potholes!
Recycle
that computer the MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY WAY, Have one of US pick
it up!
True, but as true buerocrats, they will fight us - at least if they
love to do things their buerocratic way at least as over here (and
I now, US-Buerocrats are able to reach world class ranks :).
Sad example: A friend of mine ha s (small) farm an collects cars.
Because he is not in Bill G. income class, he focuses on small
german '50s cars and has some 7 running (most well restored)
cars, and at least a dozend waiting for restoration or serving
as spare part supply. No his city officials are about to force
him to send his cars to a junk yard, since he is operating
an 'unlicensed junk yard' without the proper license and without
the leagal needed facilities. All based on environmental laws.
Don't get me wrong, these laws have helped to force a lot of
bad guys out of business, but as they are followed by some
buerocrates, they even go for worse - just imagine they call
a 1962 Borgward Isabella Coupe 'Sondermuell' (Hazardous Trash).
Just wait until these MA laws will probibit computer collections
since they are unlicenced enviromental hazards !
...
Gruss
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11:07 a.m.
New subject: OT: Re: Time to declare State of Massachusetts the ENEMY! Hey!
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Hans Franke wrote:
Sad example: A friend of mine ha s (small) farm an
collects cars.
Because he is not in Bill G. income class, he focuses on small
german '50s cars and has some 7 running (most well restored)
cars, and at least a dozend waiting for restoration or serving
as spare part supply. No his city officials are about to force
him to send his cars to a junk yard, since he is operating
an 'unlicensed junk yard' without the proper license and without
the leagal needed facilities. All based on environmental laws.
I don't know about Germany, but in California at least, there is a
provision in the California Vehicle Code to allow the storage of antique
and historical cars without the requirements of regulations and such. An
antique car is IIRC any car older than 20 years for the definitions of the
statute.
Just wait until these MA laws will probibit computer
collections
since they are unlicenced enviromental hazards !
I doubt it. Computers are easier to hide.
Also, while the MA law may seem lame, I think most of what you'll see
scrapped are old CGA,EGA and VGA monitors that nobody wants anyway. I'd
rather see them be reconditioned and put back into schools or donated to
organizations or people that can make use of them, but if that's not
happening (it takes a lot of work and the dedication of good people) then
I'd rather see their materials recycled for some good purpose, like
filling potholes.
If you're so concerned about computers being ground up to bits, you should
go out and start rescuing them.
I forget which European country it was (Holland? Sweden?) but I saw a
segment on Beyond 2000 a while back that showed a mass recycling plant
that took just about every bit of old computers and ground them up for
recycling into new computers. This include the CRT glass, the case plastic
and metal, the wire, the ICs, PCBs, EVERYTHING! It was amazing.
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10:26 a.m.
New subject: OT: Re: Time to declare State of Massachusetts the ENEMY! Hey!
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Sellam Ismail wrote:
scrapped are old CGA,EGA and VGA monitors that nobody
wants anyway. I'd
Actually, you might see 486s also. I spent half an hour last saturday
smashing all kinds of computers, from PS/2 Model 30 to DEC 486. They were
being trashed, and we decided to have some fun while we were at it. We
stomped on them till they were practically pancakes (the drives had been
removed). It was quite fun :)
--Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com)
http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is Power
12:45 p.m.
New subject: OT: Re: Time to declare State of Massachusetts the ENEMY! Hey!
Sellam Ismail wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Hans Franke wrote:
Some states/localities also include those that have no new source uder 20 yrs old,
such as Deloreans. While not a true antique they are a collectable and somewhat
historical (and sometimes hysterical).
Sad example: A friend of mine ha s (small) farm
an collects cars.
Because he is not in Bill G. income class, he focuses on small
german '50s cars and has some 7 running (most well restored)
cars, and at least a dozend waiting for restoration or serving
as spare part supply. No his city officials are about to force
him to send his cars to a junk yard, since he is operating
an 'unlicensed junk yard' without the proper license and without
the leagal needed facilities. All based on environmental laws.
I don't know about Germany, but in California at least, there is a
provision in the California Vehicle Code to allow the storage of antique
and historical cars without the requirements of regulations and such. An
antique car is IIRC any car older than 20 years for the definitions of the
statute.
Just wait until these MA laws will probibit
computer collections
since they are unlicenced enviromental hazards !
I doubt it. Computers are easier to hide.
Also, while the MA law may seem lame, I think most of what you'll see
scrapped are old CGA,EGA and VGA monitors that nobody wants anyway. I'd
rather see them be reconditioned and put back into schools or donated to
organizations or people that can make use of them, but if that's not
happening (it takes a lot of work and the dedication of good people) then
I'd rather see their materials recycled for some good purpose, like
filling potholes.
If you're so concerned about computers being ground up to bits, you should
go out and start rescuing them.
I forget which European country it was (Holland? Sweden?) but I saw a
segment on Beyond 2000 a while back that showed a mass recycling plant
that took just about every bit of old computers and ground them up for
recycling into new computers. This include the CRT glass, the case plastic
and metal, the wire, the ICs, PCBs, EVERYTHING! It was amazing.
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