28 Jan
2014
28 Jan
'14
12:17 p.m.
I have some compatibility questions.
Has OpenVMS lost the ability to restore older VAX/VMS save sets, and can it restore those
from a PDP-11?
Zane
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28 Jan
28 Jan
1:26 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Zane Healy
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:17 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: DEC Data Retrieval
I have some compatibility questions.
Has OpenVMS lost the ability to restore older VAX/VMS save sets, and can it
restore those from a PDP-11?
I've restored 'old' VMS savesets on OpenVMS 6.2 through 7.3. What do you mean
about 'those from a PDP-11?' -- Ian
2:11 p.m.
On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Ian King <IanK at LivingComputerMuseum.org> wrote:
RSTS Backup (the new one) creates VMS-compatible savesets. (I think it can also read VMS
savesets, with limitations.) Perhaps RSX does also, I don?t remember.
paul
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Zane Healy
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:17 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: DEC Data Retrieval
I have some compatibility questions.
Has OpenVMS lost the ability to restore older VAX/VMS save sets, and can it
restore those from a PDP-11?
I've restored 'old' VMS savesets on OpenVMS 6.2 through 7.3. What do you
mean about 'those from a PDP-11?? 
2:26 p.m.
On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Ian King <IanK at LivingComputerMuseum.org> wrote:
I'd assume he means BRU sets from, say, RSX-11.
- Dave
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From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Zane Healy
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:17 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: DEC Data Retrieval
I have some compatibility questions.
Has OpenVMS lost the ability to restore older VAX/VMS save sets, and can it
restore those from a PDP-11?
I've restored 'old' VMS savesets on OpenVMS 6.2 through 7.3. What do you
mean about 'those from a PDP-11?' -- Ian
3:39 p.m.
On Jan 28, 2014, at 2:26 PM, David Riley <fraveydank at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've restored 'old' VMS savesets on
OpenVMS 6.2 through 7.3. What do you mean about 'those from a PDP-11?' -- Ian
I'm not sure what version of OpenVMS I'm being asked about, I suspect it is 8
something on Itanium, but it might be older. I was thinking that with the move to v8 and
Itanium some of this might have been dropped.
I'd assume he means BRU sets from, say, RSX-11.
Correct, backups from various PDP-11 OS's.
Thanks,
Zane
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5:31 p.m.
On Jan 28, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Zane Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
On Jan 28, 2014, at 2:26 PM, David Riley <fraveydank at gmail.com> wrote:
But BRU produces something structurally different from VMS save sets, doesn?t it?
RSTS Backup actually generates VMS save sets, the same format.
paul
> I've restored 'old' VMS savesets
on OpenVMS 6.2 through 7.3. What do you mean about 'those from a PDP-11?' -- Ian
I'm not sure what version of OpenVMS I'm being asked about, I suspect it is 8
something on Itanium, but it might be older. I was thinking that with the move to v8 and
Itanium some of this might have been dropped.
I'd assume he means BRU sets from, say,
RSX-11.
Correct, backups from various PDP-11 OS's.
5:40 p.m.
On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote:
But BRU produces something structurally different from
VMS save sets, doesn?t it?
It's been so long since I've looked at any of this, I honestly don't remember.
I was thinking that RSX-11 backups would be readable by at least some versions of VMS.
RSTS Backup actually generates VMS save sets, the same
format.
That's good to know.
Thanks,
Zane
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2:01 p.m.
I have some compatibility questions.
Has OpenVMS lost the ability to restore older VAX/VMS save sets,
OpenVMS vs VMS is more of a marketing driven name change than anything
which signifies any change of functionality or compatibility.
I have used (Open)VMS Alpha V8.2 to restore tapes containing save sets written
on VAX/VMS V5.2-2 without any issues. I expect I could also use the same
system to restore save sets written by even earlier versions but I don't know
for sure.
and can it restore those from a PDP-11?
I don't know the answer to that one.
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
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