24 May
2017
24 May
'17
5:12 p.m.
I have an Atari 1040ST that I picked up some time back. It is very clean
and for the most part appears to work. It has what appears to be some kind
of generic SCSI hard drive (no markings except a serial number on the back)
as well as a DMA/SCSI adapter. The computer will boot to GEM/TOS with or
without a floppy, but I can't seem to get the HD to do much. The HD powers
up and spins/clicks like you'd expect, but after that, I get nothing on the
desktop. I tried different SCSI device number settings as well as moving
the SCSI plug to each of the two plugs on the drive. It did not have a
SCSI terminator with it, but I picked one up...made no difference.
I know very little about STs, so am learning as I go. I'm guessing that
maybe there should be a driver for the HD? The machine came with software,
but I don't see anything that looks like an HD driver disk. It has two
slightly different language disks and will boot each of them successfully,
but the HD does not show up. Is anyone familiar with this particular drive
and can possibly point me in the right direction?
https://imgur.com/a/pxMxl
The adapter on top is a male to female adapter. Not sure what that was
for. The SCSI terminator is plugged in the back below the DMA/SCSI adapter.
Thanks...Win
wheagy at gmail.com
24 May
24 May
7:03 p.m.
I think you?ll find that?s an ACSI Disk, I?m not sure how compatible they are with SCSI.
Zane
On May 24, 2017, at 5:12 PM, Win Heagy via cctech
<cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I have an Atari 1040ST that I picked up some time back. It is very clean
and for the most part appears to work. It has what appears to be some kind
of generic SCSI hard drive (no markings except a serial number on the back)
as well as a DMA/SCSI adapter. The computer will boot to GEM/TOS with or
without a floppy, but I can't seem to get the HD to do much. The HD powers
up and spins/clicks like you'd expect, but after that, I get nothing on the
desktop. I tried different SCSI device number settings as well as moving
the SCSI plug to each of the two plugs on the drive. It did not have a
SCSI terminator with it, but I picked one up...made no difference.
I know very little about STs, so am learning as I go. I'm guessing that
maybe there should be a driver for the HD? The machine came with software,
but I don't see anything that looks like an HD driver disk. It has two
slightly different language disks and will boot each of them successfully,
but the HD does not show up. Is anyone familiar with this particular drive
and can possibly point me in the right direction?
https://imgur.com/a/pxMxl
The adapter on top is a male to female adapter. Not sure what that was
for. The SCSI terminator is plugged in the back below the DMA/SCSI adapter.
Thanks...Win
wheagy at gmail.com
11:19 p.m.
On 05/24/2017 07:03 PM, Zane Healy via cctech wrote:
I think you?ll find that?s an ACSI Disk, I?m not sure
how compatible
they are with SCSI.
ACSI is close--there are some differences from SCSI. I still
have a
board I built back in the day to bridge the SCSI-ACSI difference. I
used it with an OMTI ST506-RLL-to-SCSI converter. I probably still
even have my driver code somewhere.
The connectors are a bit unusual, though--I think they're something like
a DB19.
However, there are modern versions of the ACSI adapters:
https://shop.inventronik.de/index.php
--Chuck
11:56 p.m.
Van: Win Heagy via cctech<mailto:cctech at classiccmp.org>
Verzonden: donderdag 25 mei 2017 02:12
Aan: cctech at classiccmp.org<mailto:cctech at classiccmp.org>
Onderwerp: Atari ST SCSI hard drive question
I have an Atari 1040ST that I picked up some time back. It is very clean
and for the most part appears to work. It has what appears to be some kind
of generic SCSI hard drive (no markings except a serial number on the back)
as well as a DMA/SCSI adapter. The computer will boot to GEM/TOS with or
without a floppy, but I can't seem to get the HD to do much. The HD powers
up and spins/clicks like you'd expect, but after that, I get nothing on the
desktop. I tried different SCSI device number settings as well as moving
the SCSI plug to each of the two plugs on the drive. It did not have a
SCSI terminator with it, but I picked one up...made no difference.
I know very little about STs, so am learning as I go. I'm guessing that
maybe there should be a driver for the HD? The machine came with software,
but I don't see anything that looks like an HD driver disk. It has two
slightly different language disks and will boot each of them successfully,
but the HD does not show up. Is anyone familiar with this particular drive
and can possibly point me in the right direction?
https://imgur.com/a/pxMxl
The adapter on top is a male to female adapter. Not sure what that was
for. The SCSI terminator is plugged in the back below the DMA/SCSI adapter.
Thanks...Win
wheagy at gmail.com
It?s been a loooong while. Very long ago I bought an ASCI adapter with
52 MB hard disk and installed it inside the Mega 1. I still have it, but
haven?t used it in years.
Together with the hardware came a driver, to make it boot from HD.
I vaguely remember that when the Atari was booted, the HD was still
spinning up, thus not accessible.
What you can try: power up the Atari, wait say 10-15 seconds to let
the HD spin up, then push the little reset button at the back.
Maybe it then boots from the HD ? if something is on the HD.
25 May
25 May
1:29 a.m.
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From: cctech [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Win
Heagy via cctech
Sent: 25 May 2017 01:12
To: cctech at classiccmp.org
Subject: Atari ST SCSI hard drive question
I have an Atari 1040ST that I picked up some time back. It is very clean and
for the most part appears to work. It has what appears to be some kind of
generic SCSI hard drive (no markings except a serial number on the back) as
well as a DMA/SCSI adapter. The computer will boot to GEM/TOS with or
without a floppy, but I can't seem to get the HD to do much. The HD powers
up and spins/clicks like you'd expect, but after that, I get nothing on the
desktop. I tried different SCSI device number settings as well as moving the
SCSI plug to each of the two plugs on the drive. It did not have a SCSI
terminator with it, but I picked one up...made no difference.
I know very little about STs, so am learning as I go. I'm guessing that maybe
there should be a driver for the HD?
The ST will boot from the SCSI bus so any driver normally lives on the Hard Drive and is
loaded via the boot.
The machine came with software, but I
don't see anything that looks like an HD driver disk. It has two slightly
different language disks and will boot each of them successfully, but the HD
does not show up. Is anyone familiar with this particular drive and can
possibly point me in the right direction?
https://imgur.com/a/pxMxl
The adapter on top is a male to female adapter. Not sure what that was for.
The SCSI terminator is plugged in the back below the DMA/SCSI adapter.
That is an ICD adaptor and so needs the special ICD software. As this was saleable I have
three suggestions: -
1. It was just binned as someone didn't know it was valuable.
2. It was sold as it was valuable
3. He used a hooky copy.
The ICD web site is up but no products are available.
http://www.icd.com/atari/
I thought there was a copy on the Atari Archive at UMICH but it appears not.
http://umich.edu/~archive/atari/
but the standard Atari software is available there. I think it works with the ICD
adaptors.
The only available driver is that from here:-
http://hddriver.seimet.de/en/
which is really good. The demo will at least see the SCSI IDs...
most Atari action now takes place on the Atari Forums, which I never look at these days.
Google it...
Thanks...Win
wheagy at gmail.com
Dave
G4UGM
5:30 a.m.
On 25 May 2017 at 02:12, Win Heagy via cctech <cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
The adapter on top is a male to female adapter. Not
sure what that was
for. The SCSI terminator is plugged in the back below the DMA/SCSI adapter.
Just a standard Amphenol terminator, I think.
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