19 Jul
2018
19 Jul
'18
2:51 p.m.
Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
Laserjet IIP printers?
Parallel port and/or SCSI flatbed scanners? (home office, NOT
professional)
Oversized PC cases with MANY drive bays?
Generic 386? PCs?
Is it worth even hauling that kinda stuff to VCF?
19 Jul
19 Jul
2:52 p.m.
Generic 386 pcs are of interest to me, how many?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 5:51 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
Laserjet IIP printers?
Parallel port and/or SCSI flatbed scanners? (home office, NOT
professional)
Oversized PC cases with MANY drive bays?
Generic 386? PCs?
Is it worth even hauling that kinda stuff to VCF?
3:01 p.m.
!P? laserjet? was a landmark printer? it? was? ?introduction? of? a? more Budget solution
to the laserjet? line? ?Ed#? www.smecc.org?
In a message dated 7/19/2018 2:53:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
Generic 386 pcs are of interest to me, how many?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 5:51 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
Laserjet IIP printers?
Parallel port and/or SCSI flatbed scanners? (home office, NOT
professional)
Oversized PC cases with MANY drive bays?
Generic 386? PCs?
Is it worth even hauling that kinda stuff to VCF?
3:06 p.m.
> Generic 386? PCs?
> Is it worth even hauling that kinda stuff to VCF?
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, devin davison wrote:
Generic 386 pcs are of interest to me, how many?
half a dozen. Might be some 286 and some early Pentium
I will keep the hard disks until I can get around to wiping stuff
from them.
3:01 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred Cisin
via cctalk
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:51 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Landfill?
Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
===
If a person is going to dabble with modems, these are as good as it gets.
If you don't mind shipping, and you're just looking for compensation for
shipping costs and packaging, I'd take a couple (assuming you're .us or
.ca), but there is still a little demand for these. There is nothing
better. (There are a few more interesting modems, like acoustic coupler
modems and some of the Telebit stuff, but for practical usage, a v.92
v.Everything Courier is top of the heap.)
Jim
3:03 p.m.
not? ?going to? vcf.
but...
if the? iiP? is? really? really? clean and? ?found its? way in the truck of a? car? to
Arizona? we? would? give noe? ?a home
?
Ed#? www.smecc.org?
In a message dated 7/19/2018 2:51:33 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
Laserjet IIP printers?
Parallel port and/or SCSI flatbed scanners? (home office, NOT
professional)
Oversized PC cases with MANY drive bays?
Generic 386? PCs?
Is it worth even hauling that kinda stuff to VCF?
3:15 p.m.
Laserjet IIP printers?
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Ed Sharpe wrote:
not?? ??going to?? vcf.
but...
if the?? iiP?? is?? really?? really?? clean and?? ??found its?? way in the truck of a??
car?? to Arizona?? we?? would?? give noe?? ??a home
Two of them.
Working when last used ~10 years ago.
(how fast do the rollers deteriorate? You got Ubik?)
Look clean/no yellowing
toner cartridges, maybe aux. paper feeder,
I don't know where the font and postscript accessory cartridges are, . .
.
I have no current travel plans. You get to figure out transport.
3:19 p.m.
We? would love one!
what ever accessories? ?your? have? are? welcome as well too? for it!? ?Ed#?
?
In a message dated 7/19/2018 3:15:35 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
Laserjet IIP printers?
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Ed Sharpe wrote:
not? ?going to? vcf.
but...
if the? iiP? is? really? really? clean and? ?found its? way in the truck of a? car? to
Arizona? we? would? give noe? ?a home
Two of them.
Working when last used ~10 years ago.
(how fast do the rollers deteriorate? You got Ubik?)
Look clean/no yellowing
toner cartridges, maybe aux. paper feeder,
I don't know where the font and postscript accessory cartridges are, . .
.
I have no current travel plans. You get to figure out transport.
3:36 p.m.
> Laserjet IIP printers?
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Ed Sharpe wrote:
We?? would love one!
what ever accessories?? ??your?? have?? are?? welcome as well too?? for it!?? ??Ed#??
If you arrange transport, and don't make me break up the set :-), then
I will also make more effort to dig out whatever accessory cartridges I
have left. (many-fonts-in-one, Postscript, etc. I might even still have
one of the Doctor Marty maximum cartridges)
3:39 p.m.
ok? if? anyone? ?coming thru az? this? summer? let? ?us know? if? you can? ?carry a
couple? baby lasers!
?
?
yes the? pair? is? fine? one? can? go in offsite? display.
?
?
In a message dated 7/19/2018 3:37:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
> Laserjet IIP printers?
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Ed Sharpe wrote:
We? would love one!
what ever accessories? ?your? have? are? welcome as well too? for it!? ?Ed#?
If you arrange transport, and don't make me break up the set :-), then
I will also make more effort to dig out whatever accessory cartridges I
have left. (many-fonts-in-one, Postscript, etc. I might even still have
one of the Doctor Marty maximum cartridges)
3:40 p.m.
Opps!? ? what is? ?your? ?location?
In a message dated 7/19/2018 3:39:28 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
ok? if? anyone? ?coming thru az? this? summer? let? ?us know? if? you can? ?carry a
couple? baby lasers!
?
?
yes the? pair? is? fine? one? can? go in offsite? display.
?
?
In a message dated 7/19/2018 3:37:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
> Laserjet IIP printers?
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Ed Sharpe wrote:
We? would love one!
what ever accessories? ?your? have? are? welcome as well too? for it!? ?Ed#?
If you arrange transport, and don't make me break up the set :-), then
I will also make more effort to dig out whatever accessory cartridges I
have left. (many-fonts-in-one, Postscript, etc. I might even still have
one of the Doctor Marty maximum cartridges)
3:07 p.m.
On 07/19/2018 03:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
I'm finding that my interest in BBSing and other modem based
communications of the '80s & '90s is flaring again.
As such, a pair of Courier's is on my list to acquire when it's convenient.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
4:41 p.m.
New subject: Courier Modems (Was: Landfill?
> Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
There's four or five.
Next week, I'll check which sub-models.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> On 07/19/2018 03:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
>
> I'm finding that my interest in BBSing and other modem based communications
> of the '80s & '90s is flaring again.
>
> As such, a pair of Courier's is on my list to acquire when it's convenient.
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
20 Jul
20 Jul
11:18 a.m.
New subject: Courier Modems (Was: Landfill?
yes? would? take? one? or? 2....? Ed#
In a message dated 7/19/2018 4:44:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
> Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
There's four or five.
Next week, I'll check which sub-models.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> On 07/19/2018 03:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
>
> I'm finding that my interest in BBSing and other modem based communications
> of the '80s & '90s is flaring again.
>
> As such, a pair of Courier's is on my list to acquire when it's convenient.
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
4:46 p.m.
New subject: Courier Modems (Was: Landfill?
On Fri, 20 Jul 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote:
yes? would? take? one? or? 2....? Ed#
In a message dated 7/19/2018 4:44:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
I'd also be interested in a pair of Couriers, preferably of the
V-Everything variety.
--
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> Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92
modems?
There's four or five.
Next week, I'll check which sub-models.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> On 07/19/2018 03:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92
modems?
>
> I'm finding that my interest in BBSing and other modem based communications
> of the '80s & '90s is flaring again.
>
> As such, a pair of Courier's is on my list to acquire when it's convenient.
5:57 p.m.
New subject: Courier Modems (Was: Landfill?
There's now six requests for 4 or 5 modems.
And I don't yet know which specific sub-models they are
I may be able to get a look at them on Tuesday or Thursday.
It is likely that they all work, but I will not guarantee them, nor even
get around to testing them.
I have some wall warts, but not sure how many.
Is anybody familiar with the firmware upgrade aspects of the different
models?
It would appear that there ARE people who want Vintage Generic PC Crap.
Except for the scanners.
. . . and probably deskjet and dot matrix printers.
But, I will respect Evan's wishes, and be selective about what I haul to
VCF; I don't want to bring anything back.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
6:49 p.m.
New subject: Courier Modems (Was: Landfill?
On 07/20/2018 05:57 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Is anybody familiar with the firmware upgrade aspects
of the different
models?
I gave away three of the things last year--a "dual standard"; a "Courier
V.92 (or something" and the latest "V. everything" one.
There were firmware upgrades for the first two, but IIRC, they also
involved an SRAM upgrade. There was an upgrade for the V.Everything,
that was download and flash (i.e. no replacement ICs).
--Chuck
7:21 p.m.
New subject: Courier Modems (Was: Landfill?
On Jul 20, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
There's now six requests for 4 or 5 modems. ...
That is a little scary. I will hunt for modems in my boxes, and post if I can find them.
They will be available, but I?m sure I didn?t get any Couriers.
It would appear that there ARE people who want Vintage
Generic PC Crap.
Except for the scanners.
. . . and probably deskjet and dot matrix printers.
Actually, I have a reasonable collection of Stylewriters that I?d swap for an Imagewriter.
I wouldn't consider that a good bargain for the previous Imagewriter owner, but in
case anyone is looking to ?trade up??.
All this (that I can find) in San Antonio, Texas.
- Mark
21 Jul
21 Jul
9:49 a.m.
New subject: Courier Modems (Was: Landfill?
orig? ?first model? hp scanjet? worth saving!
Ed# www.smecc.org
?
In a message dated 7/20/2018 7:21:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
It would appear that there ARE people who want Vintage
Generic PC Crap.
Except for the scanners.
2:26 a.m.
New subject: Courier Modems (Was: Landfill?
It would appear that there ARE people who want Vintage Generic PC Crap.
Except for the scanners.
The scanners shouldn't have to be regarded as (Vintage) Generic PC Crap.
For example, I wrote a hack for the (possibly un-aptly named) SANE scanner
software to let it drive a SCSI scanner from VAX/VMS...
(I wouldn't mind having another SCSI scanner to play with if it wasn't on the
wrong side of the Atlantic.)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
23 Jul
23 Jul
6:31 p.m.
New subject: Courier Modems (Was: Landfill?
And? if? ?you? collect hp.? which...? ?we? do? of? course at? SMECC? so need to hear? if?
you? qall have any of? this.
?
The scanjet? ?BW? is? ?first? HP...? and? ?scanject 2c? is? first? color scanner? hp
always? accepting? gifts? of these? 2.
?
IN? hp lasers? ?
2686a? ?first HP laser...? ? ? then there is a? first? color? laser? HP? too ( if? you can
lift it.)
?
Would also suggest saving and? we need a? clean one? ?hp? 500? which? was a? 2886a? with
a? bunch of? bins? was? damn? expensive? ?so not a lot? of them around compared to? 2886a
?
Office jet.... hp? officejet ( no suffex? ? had? deskjet? ?printer? in? it.? ? was? first
as I? remember
?
HP? Paint jet? ?first? color....? we need one...? uses? tracer feed? paper.? just? found?
my old? sales? binder? for it? with all the? samples etc? as? issued? by hp
?
?
NEED? HP 3000? cx? series? II? series III? Model? 30? model? 40? etc etc etc
?
?
?
Looking for? ? HP? VECTRA? Has bizzare? moue? interface etc...
?
HP? 150 -? WORKING? OF? NOT? PLUS - -Looking? ?for? any AND? ALL hp? 150? PARTS? PIECES
SALES? LIT? ? POSTERS? WITH MONARCH BUTTERFLY? ETC...
?
Looking? ?for? ?some? HP? calc? stuff
Looking? for? HP? 110? portable? and portable? plus? ?also?
NEED VECTRA? CS PORTABLE (Bless its? wretched? soul!)
?
?
I? guess if? it? ?says? HP? would? like to? hear? about it.
?
?
HEY LOOKING? FOR? ANY? ?ADVERTISING? ITEMS? FROM? COMPUTER EXCHANGE? PHX? TOO!
?
Ed Sharpe Archivist? for SMECC ( Retired? CEO? Computer Exchange? ?Phx? ?AZ)
?
?
In a message dated 7/21/2018 2:37:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
> It would appear that there ARE people who want Vintage Generic PC Crap.
> Except for the scanners.
The scanners shouldn't have to be regarded as (Vintage) Generic PC Crap.
For example, I wrote a hack for the (possibly un-aptly named) SANE scanner
software to let it drive a SCSI scanner from VAX/VMS...
(I wouldn't mind having another SCSI scanner to play with if it wasn't on the
wrong side of the Atlantic.)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
9:49 p.m.
New subject: Courier Modems (Was: Landfill?
Unsubscribe
On 24 Jul 2018, at 03:31, Ed Sharpe via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
And if you collect hp. which... we do of course at SMECC so need to hear if
you qall have any of this.
The scanjet BW is first HP... and scanject 2c is first color scanner hp
always accepting gifts of these 2.
IN hp lasers
2686a first HP laser... then there is a first color laser HP too ( if you
can lift it.)
Would also suggest saving and we need a clean one hp 500 which was a 2886a with
a bunch of bins was damn expensive so not a lot of them around compared to 2886a
Office jet.... hp officejet ( no suffex had deskjet printer in it. was first
as I remember
HP Paint jet first color.... we need one... uses tracer feed paper. just found
my old sales binder for it with all the samples etc as issued by hp
NEED HP 3000 cx series II series III Model 30 model 40 etc etc etc
Looking for HP VECTRA Has bizzare moue interface etc...
HP 150 - WORKING OF NOT PLUS - -Looking for any AND ALL hp 150 PARTS PIECES
SALES LIT POSTERS WITH MONARCH BUTTERFLY ETC...
Looking for some HP calc stuff
Looking for HP 110 portable and portable plus also
NEED VECTRA CS PORTABLE (Bless its wretched soul!)
I guess if it says HP would like to hear about it.
HEY LOOKING FOR ANY ADVERTISING ITEMS FROM COMPUTER EXCHANGE PHX TOO!
Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC ( Retired CEO Computer Exchange Phx AZ)
In a message dated 7/21/2018 2:37:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
> It would appear that there ARE people who want Vintage Generic PC Crap.
> Except for the scanners.
The scanners shouldn't have to be regarded as (Vintage) Generic PC Crap.
For example, I wrote a hack for the (possibly un-aptly named) SANE scanner
software to let it drive a SCSI scanner from VAX/VMS...
(I wouldn't mind having another SCSI scanner to play with if it wasn't on the
wrong side of the Atlantic.)
Regards,
Peter Coghlan.
19 Jul
19 Jul
3:12 p.m.
People seem to be looking for AT style PC cases all the time.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Cisin via cctalk
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:51 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Landfill?
Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
Laserjet IIP printers?
Parallel port and/or SCSI flatbed scanners? (home office, NOT
professional)
Oversized PC cases with MANY drive bays?
Generic 386? PCs?
Is it worth even hauling that kinda stuff to VCF?
---
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3:49 p.m.
Unfortunately I? do not? travel much? anymore.
We are? ok on Emachines? etc... have a? couple? as? ?they are part of? history?
?
a? really? clean? IBM 5170 if it? landed? her? would? be? welcome though!
?
Ed#
?
In a message dated 7/19/2018 3:41:35 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, TeoZ wrote:
People seem to be looking for AT style PC cases all
the time.
Do you ever travel to Berkeley?
Generic? e-machines, etc.
Real IBM 5170
ridiculous "server" cases (need half a dozen drives front panel AND some
hard drives INSIDE?)
4:07 p.m.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Ed Sharpe wrote:
a?? really?? clean?? IBM 5170 if it?? landed?? her??
would?? be?? welcome though!
My 5150s, 5160s, and 5170s are very far from "clean". Functionality over
esthetics. Additional mounting holes, some have additional DB25 and
DC37 cutouts in back, some don't have lids (a few never did), one 5170 had
bad case damage when a bookcase landed on it during Loma Prieta, etc.
My first 5150 started life with the white switch black power supply.
A decade ago, the college dumpstered the collection of one of my
colleagues; besides IMSAI, ProcTech, N*, he had had a few dozen clean
5150s and 5170s, including several of the "gold-badge" 5170s.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
20 Jul
20 Jul
7:30 a.m.
My first 5150 started life with the white switch black
power supply.
A decade ago, the college dumpstered the collection of one of my
colleagues; besides IMSAI, ProcTech, N*, he had had a few dozen clean
5150s and 5170s, including several of the "gold-badge" 5170s.
Fred,
I've never heard of a 5170 w/ a gold badge or a 5150 w/ a white switch. I
have a very early 5150 (model A if you prefer) which according to SN is one
of the first 2500 produced and that one has a red switch. Do you by any
chance have the SN on yours handy?
p.s. what did the gold badge signify?
-Ali
19 Jul
19 Jul
3:14 p.m.
The modems and 386 would be on-topic for VCF consignment, but I don't
think the scanners, etc. would be .... we don't want it to become the
Vintage Generic PC Crap Festival. :)
On 07/19/2018 05:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Is there ANY interest in Courier 56K V.92 modems?
Laserjet IIP printers?
Parallel port and/or SCSI flatbed scanners?? (home office, NOT
professional)
Oversized PC cases with MANY drive bays?
Generic 386? PCs?
Is it worth even hauling that kinda stuff to VCF?
3:30 p.m.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Evan Koblentz wrote:
The modems and 386 would be on-topic for VCF
consignment, but I don't think
the scanners, etc. would be .... we don't want it to become the Vintage
Generic PC Crap Festival. :)
Not to worry.
I also have a few boxes of old books and IBM slip-case manuals (techRef,
etc.), 3" and 3.25" drives, at least one bundle of hard sector disks, half
a dozen HP "pinch to close shutter" 3.5" disks, a Shugart 3.5" from
before
they HAD shutters, a Sony 600RPM 3.5" (if I can find it), . . .
('course all of THAT will look like Generic PC Crap to people unfamiliar,
. . . )
I'm not healthy enough (last year I had another TURP surgery, instead of
VCF, eclipse, and Concourse D'Lemons) to dig out the 8" drives, or to
really load up, so, it's gonna be a much lesser quantity of what I can
manage.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
20 Jul
20 Jul
6:47 a.m.
On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 at 00:30, Fred Cisin via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I'm not healthy enough (last year I had another TURP surgery
*Googles*
*Winces _hard_*
I'm in for surgery next week myself. They're going to try to stop my
left arm from falling off.
Snag is... I'm left handed. And I'm in Prague and I don't speak Czech
worth a damn.
Summary:
:-( :'(
Anyway. Want me to mention your list of stuff on the FB Vintage
Computer Club? Either anonymoulsy or via a spamtrap of your choice...
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