Yes, cctalk is not the totally off-topic free zone that cctech is. However, do NOT interpret that as a "anything goes" policy. I've sat back and watched the past few days of crap threads and I'm a little tired of it. More importantly, I've received numerous complaints. OFF topic posts on cctalk ARE ok. But I think we're all adult enough to know what is pushing the envelope. Sure, go off topic, that's what this list is for. But extended threads on religion, politics, etc. that are little more than pi**ing contests are just off-base. Thanks Jay West