7 Jul
2016
7 Jul
'16
12:02 a.m.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:01:35 +0100
From: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com>
To: Paul Birkel <pbirkel at gmail.com>
On 07/07/2016 07:18, Paul Birkel wrote:
"MakeAnEight", oh my :->. Next it will
be "SweetSixteen" I imagine.
Great news on the casting-in-resin prototype. How much are these ending up costing?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod Smallwood
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:04 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Hi Guys
We are able to-announce the successful test production of a PDP-8 Bezel in
cast resin.
The result is tough, beige colored, slightly flexible copy of the
original.
Bonding the panel to the bezel or adding internal stiffening brings
rigidity.
Painting matches the color.
This will be part of our MakeAnEight parts for reproduction or repair
range.
Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
Hi Paul
Well I was going to call it ElevenHeaven but I like
your idea better.
They got a good result first time. That seemed too easy. Then I remembered
that when I went through the molding and casting process they said is
that it?
It just dawned on me. Screen printing is all about handling gloopy liquids.
They have all of the knowledge of mixing and all of the measuring pots and
stirring sticks you will ever need.
Cost? Well that's interesting.
Usually in a small run/custom situation its the labor cost that's the
major element.
Here it seems to be the cost of the materials to get the right result. I
should know soon.
Regards Rod
7 Jul
7 Jul
11:11 a.m.
On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:01:35 +0100
From: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com>
To: Paul Birkel <pbirkel at gmail.com>
On 07/07/2016 07:18, Paul Birkel wrote:
I would stick with the "ElevenHeaven" since that indicates a PDP-11. The
Sixteen
refers to the bits, I know, but there were a lot of 16-bit-ers out there and only
one Eleven!
BTW, I'm looking forward to your getting to the PDP-11 series, especially an 11/70
panel and bezel.
Regards,
John H. Reinhardt
"MakeAnEight", oh my :->. Next it
will be "SweetSixteen" I imagine.
Great news on the casting-in-resin prototype. How much are these ending up costing?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod Smallwood
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:04 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Hi Guys
We are able to-announce the successful test production of a PDP-8 Bezel in
cast resin.
The result is tough, beige colored, slightly flexible copy of the
original.
Bonding the panel to the bezel or adding internal stiffening brings
rigidity.
Painting matches the color.
This will be part of our MakeAnEight parts for reproduction or repair
range.
Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
Hi Paul
Well I was going to call it ElevenHeaven but I like
your idea better.
They got a good result first time. That seemed too easy. Then I remembered
that when I went through the molding and casting process they said is
that it?
It just dawned on me. Screen printing is all about handling gloopy liquids.
They have all of the knowledge of mixing and all of the measuring pots and
stirring sticks you will ever need.
Cost? Well that's interesting.
Usually in a small run/custom situation its the labor cost that's the
major element.
Here it seems to be the cost of the materials to get the right result. I
should know soon.
Regards Rod
11:47 a.m.
On 07/07/2016 19:11, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Ok Thanks
Plan is to complete the PDP-8/i and then do the 8/L
Next up will be the much requested ElevenHeaven range.
As the 11/70 is the headline system we could start there.
Panels first, bezel to follow.
Longer term goal is a full size operating replica that is difficult (at
least externally) to tell from the original.
Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:01:35 +0100
From: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com>
To: Paul Birkel <pbirkel at gmail.com>
On 07/07/2016 07:18, Paul Birkel wrote:
I would stick with the "ElevenHeaven" since that indicates a PDP-11.
The Sixteen
refers to the bits, I know, but there were a lot of 16-bit-ers out
there and only
one Eleven!
BTW, I'm looking forward to your getting to the PDP-11 series,
especially an 11/70
panel and bezel.
Regards,
John H. Reinhardt "MakeAnEight", oh my :->. Next it
will be "SweetSixteen" I imagine.
Great news on the casting-in-resin prototype. How much are these
ending up costing?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod
Smallwood
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:04 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Hi Guys
We are able to-announce the successful test
production of a PDP-8 Bezel in cast resin.
The result is tough, beige colored, slightly flexible
copy of the original.
Bonding the panel to the bezel or adding internal
stiffening brings rigidity.
Painting matches the color.
This will be part of our MakeAnEight parts for
reproduction or repair range.
Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
Hi Paul
Well I was going to call it ElevenHeaven but I like
your idea better.
They got a good result first time. That seemed too easy. Then I
remembered
that when I went through the molding and casting process they said is
that it?
It just dawned on me. Screen printing is all about handling gloopy
liquids.
They have all of the knowledge of mixing and all of the measuring
pots and
stirring sticks you will ever need.
Cost? Well that's interesting.
Usually in a small run/custom situation its the labor cost that's the
major element.
Here it seems to be the cost of the materials to get the right result. I
should know soon.
Regards Rod
11:14 p.m.
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 07:47:32PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
On 07/07/2016 19:11, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
Is there a way to tell your replicas from the originals? Given the prices
of some original panels it would be nice to be able to identify a
"counterfeit" one.
Now, I am i no way against what you are doing I think it i great but I'm
honestly conserned that these will pop up on ebay in the future as the real
thing.
/P
On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Ok Thanks
Plan is to complete the PDP-8/i and then do the 8/L
Next up will be the much requested ElevenHeaven range.
As the 11/70 is the headline system we could start there.
Panels first, bezel to follow.
Longer term goal is a full size operating replica that is difficult (at
least externally) to tell from the original.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:01:35 +0100
From: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com>
To: Paul Birkel <pbirkel at gmail.com>
On 07/07/2016 07:18, Paul Birkel wrote:
I would stick with the "ElevenHeaven" since that indicates a PDP-11. The
Sixteen
refers to the bits, I know, but there were a lot of 16-bit-ers out there
and only
one Eleven!
BTW, I'm looking forward to your getting to the PDP-11 series, especially
an 11/70
panel and bezel.
Regards,
John H. Reinhardt "MakeAnEight", oh my :->. Next it
will be "SweetSixteen" I imagine.
Great news on the casting-in-resin prototype. How much are these
ending up costing?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod
Smallwood
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:04 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Hi Guys
We are able to-announce the successful test production
of a PDP-8 Bezel in cast resin.
The result is tough, beige colored, slightly flexible
copy of the original.
Bonding the panel to the bezel or adding internal
stiffening brings rigidity.
Painting matches the color.
This will be part of our MakeAnEight parts for
reproduction or repair range.
Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
Hi Paul
Well I was going to call it ElevenHeaven but I like
your idea better.
They got a good result first time. That seemed too easy. Then I
remembered
that when I went through the molding and casting process they said is
that it?
It just dawned on me. Screen printing is all about handling gloopy
liquids.
They have all of the knowledge of mixing and all of the measuring pots
and
stirring sticks you will ever need.
Cost? Well that's interesting.
Usually in a small run/custom situation its the labor cost that's the
major element.
Here it seems to be the cost of the materials to get the right result. I
should know soon.
Regards Rod
8 Jul
8 Jul
5:17 a.m.
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Pontus Pihlgren <pontus at update.uu.se> wrote:
Is there a way to tell your replicas from the originals? Given the prices
of some original panels it would be nice to be able to identify a
"counterfeit" one.
Hopefully he has put a "Origin:" or "Creator:" line somewhere on the
backside (inside) of the panel.
--
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen
5:18 a.m.
On 08/07/2016 07:14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 07:47:32PM +0100, Rod
Smallwood wrote:
Well I could say ours are better. However I'm going to get a number
burned into the plexiglass.
An easy way to tell is to look at the cutouts. Ours are laser cut and
perfectly straight, sharp and square.
The originals have tool marks and are a bit rounded in the corners by
the router.
Regards Rod
On 07/07/2016 19:11, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
Is there a way to tell your replicas from the originals? Given the prices
of some original panels it would be nice to be able to identify a
"counterfeit" one.
Now, I am i no way against what you are doing I think it i great but I'm
honestly conserned that these will pop up on ebay in the future as the real
thing.
/P On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Ok Thanks
Plan is to complete the PDP-8/i and then do the 8/L
Next up will be the much requested ElevenHeaven range.
As the 11/70 is the headline system we could start there.
Panels first, bezel to follow.
Longer term goal is a full size operating replica that is difficult (at
least externally) to tell from the original.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:01:35 +0100
From: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com>
To: Paul Birkel <pbirkel at gmail.com>
On 07/07/2016 07:18, Paul Birkel wrote:
> "MakeAnEight", oh my :->. Next it will be "SweetSixteen" I
imagine.
>
> Great news on the casting-in-resin prototype. How much are these
> ending up costing?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod
> Smallwood
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:04 AM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
>
> Hi Guys
>
> We are able to-announce the successful test production
> of a PDP-8 Bezel in cast resin.
>
> The result is tough, beige colored, slightly flexible
> copy of the original.
>
> Bonding the panel to the bezel or adding internal
> stiffening brings rigidity.
>
> Painting matches the color.
>
> This will be part of our MakeAnEight parts for
> reproduction or repair range.
>
>
> Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
>
>
>
Hi Paul
Well I was going to call it ElevenHeaven but I like
your idea better.
They got a good result first time. That seemed too easy. Then I
remembered
that when I went through the molding and casting process they said is
that it?
It just dawned on me. Screen printing is all about handling gloopy
liquids.
They have all of the knowledge of mixing and all of the measuring pots
and
stirring sticks you will ever need.
Cost? Well that's interesting.
Usually in a small run/custom situation its the labor cost that's the
major element.
Here it seems to be the cost of the materials to get the right result. I
should know soon.
Regards Rod
I would stick with the "ElevenHeaven" since that indicates a PDP-11.
The
Sixteen
refers to the bits, I know, but there were a lot of 16-bit-ers out there
and only
one Eleven!
BTW, I'm looking forward to your getting to the PDP-11 series, especially
an 11/70
panel and bezel.
Regards,
John H. Reinhardt
9:11 a.m.
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 01:18:45PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
On 08/07/2016 07:14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
Thank you, good enough.
/P
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 07:47:32PM +0100, Rod
Smallwood wrote:
Well I could say ours are better. However I'm going to get a number burned
into the plexiglass.
An easy way to tell is to look at the cutouts. Ours are laser cut and
perfectly straight, sharp and square.
The originals have tool marks and are a bit rounded in the corners by the
router.
Regards Rod
On 07/07/2016 19:11, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
Is there a way to tell your replicas from the originals? Given the prices
of some original panels it would be nice to be able to identify a
"counterfeit" one.
Now, I am i no way against what you are doing I think it i great but I'm
honestly conserned that these will pop up on ebay in the future as the real
thing.
/P On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
>
>
>-------- Forwarded Message --------
>Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
>Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:01:35 +0100
>From: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com>
>To: Paul Birkel <pbirkel at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>On 07/07/2016 07:18, Paul Birkel wrote:
>>"MakeAnEight", oh my :->. Next it will be "SweetSixteen" I
imagine.
>>
>>Great news on the casting-in-resin prototype. How much are these
>>ending up costing?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod
>>Smallwood
>>Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 2:04 AM
>>To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>>Subject: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
>>
>>Hi Guys
>>
>> We are able to-announce the successful test production
>>of a PDP-8 Bezel in cast resin.
>>
>> The result is tough, beige colored, slightly flexible
>>copy of the original.
>>
>> Bonding the panel to the bezel or adding internal
>>stiffening brings rigidity.
>>
>> Painting matches the color.
>>
>> This will be part of our MakeAnEight parts for
>>reproduction or repair range.
>>
>>
>> Rod (Panelman) Smallwood
>>
>>
>>
>Hi Paul
> Well I was going to call it ElevenHeaven but I like
>your idea better.
>
>They got a good result first time. That seemed too easy. Then I
>remembered
>that when I went through the molding and casting process they said is
>that it?
>
>It just dawned on me. Screen printing is all about handling gloopy
>liquids.
>They have all of the knowledge of mixing and all of the measuring pots
>and
>stirring sticks you will ever need.
>
>Cost? Well that's interesting.
>Usually in a small run/custom situation its the labor cost that's the
>major element.
>Here it seems to be the cost of the materials to get the right result. I
>should know soon.
>
>Regards Rod
>
>
I would stick with the "ElevenHeaven" since that indicates a PDP-11. The
Sixteen
refers to the bits, I know, but there were a lot of 16-bit-ers out there
and only
one Eleven!
BTW, I'm looking forward to your getting to the PDP-11 series, especially
an 11/70
panel and bezel.
Regards,
John H. Reinhardt
Ok Thanks
Plan is to complete the PDP-8/i and then do the 8/L
Next up will be the much requested ElevenHeaven range.
As the 11/70 is the headline system we could start there.
Panels first, bezel to follow.
Longer term goal is a full size operating replica that is difficult (at
least externally) to tell from the original.
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