7 Mar
2005
7 Mar
'05
2:01 p.m.
Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Presumably such machines boot from hard disk too?
(I've never seen any
flavour of Windows boot from ROM).
Actually HP produced a version of windows 3.1 that was in ROM
They also produced a DOS system that was in ROM and a Unix
system (HP-UX 5.0) that was in ROM (not just the kernel, but
applications like csh and vi were in ROM as well).
Anyway, today you can get systems that boot from CDROM and run
from a RAMDISK. I have seen Windows 98 (or ME) running
in this
mode (really useful when booting off the network) so its not
that hard.
Finally windows CE is designed to be in ROM and you have a number
of implementations that use WinCE for its GUI.
**vp
7 Mar
7 Mar
2:16 p.m.
HP/Agilent did have a scope that ran full Win98 from HD. It kinda
pissed off the sales guy when I put our own network card in (something
like a $750 option from HP). I think he was also annoyed when I started
playing FreeCell on the scope.
--jc
Vassilis Prevelakis wrote:
Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at
yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Presumably such machines boot from hard disk too?
(I've never seen any
flavour of Windows boot from ROM).
Actually HP produced a version of windows 3.1 that was in ROM
They also produced a DOS system that was in ROM and a Unix
system (HP-UX 5.0) that was in ROM (not just the kernel, but
applications like csh and vi were in ROM as well).
Anyway, today you can get systems that boot from CDROM and run
from a RAMDISK. I have seen Windows 98 (or ME) running in this
mode (really useful when booting off the network) so its not
that hard.
Finally windows CE is designed to be in ROM and you have a number
of implementations that use WinCE for its GUI.
**vp
2:23 p.m.
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:16:47 -0500, J.C. Wren <jcwren at jcwren.com> wrote:
HP/Agilent did have a scope that ran full Win98
from HD. It kinda
pissed off the sales guy when I put our own network card in (something
like a $750 option from HP). I think he was also annoyed when I started
playing FreeCell on the scope.
Been there, done that... (FreeCell _and_ the el-cheapo network adapter)
-ethan
2:39 p.m.
I don't want to start any flamewars or off topic rows ......
But out of interest does anyone actually use any of these scopes. I
know everyone automatically moans about win 98. Is it stable running
on these ?, I would imagine that without installing extra
software/hardware it should be fine, Anyone know ?
Dan
3:27 p.m.
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:39:18 +0000, Dan Williams <williams.dan at gmail.com> wrote:
I don't want to start any flamewars or off topic
rows ......
But out of interest does anyone actually use any of these scopes. I
know everyone automatically moans about win 98. Is it stable running
on these ?, I would imagine that without installing extra
software/hardware it should be fine, Anyone know ?
I have used one (obviously, from my stories)... my largest complaint
is that if one forgets to shut Windows down before turning off the
scope, the filesystem can be corrupted (yes... it does happen). My
second largest complaint is how long it takes to "warm up"... my old
analog Tek scope, or a LeCroy digital scope (owned by my employer) is
ready to go in much less than a minute.
Once things are up and running, I have no complaints about the HP
scope I've been describing.
-ethan
4:14 p.m.
I used ours for about a year (we had 4 of them, actually), never had
a problem. You have to understand that Win98 is pretty stable when
you're not using all these wonky third part drivers for goofy little
webcams, off-brand video cards, discount Taiwanese USB devices, etc.
Basically, it boots up and provides graphics and disk storage to an
application. The front panel is nothing more than a bunch of I/O, and
the D/As and amps for the probes are an input device.
The application boots up, you've got a scope. Very reliable.
--jc
Dan Williams wrote:
I don't want to start any flamewars or off topic
rows ......
But out of interest does anyone actually use any of these scopes. I
know everyone automatically moans about win 98. Is it stable running
on these ?, I would imagine that without installing extra
software/hardware it should be fine, Anyone know ?
Dan
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