20 Jan
2009
20 Jan
'09
2:08 p.m.
Yo,
I have a very nice Seequa Chameleon that needs a new home. It's in
really nice condition except the carrying handle is missing. I'm not
going to give it away but am willing to take a "reasonable" offer.
Otherwise, it goes to the dump.
If anyone is interested let me know at steerex [at] ccvn [dot] com
BTW: I'm located in Western North Carolina.
Steve Robertson
3:36 p.m.
Jules Richardson wrote:
Steve Robertson wrote:
Steve can speak for himself, but my guess is the thinking is like this.
(1) getting paid a nominal amount of money makes it worth the time to go
to the hassle of packing it properly and going to the post office
(2) tossing it out takes no time, money, or supplies
(3) either is personally acceptable
(4) taking time, effort, and supplies to properly pack it and go to the
post office and getting nothing in return isn't acceptable.
Another possible angle is: there are many people who will take things
for free who don't really need it since it is free. Someone willing to
pay for it is more likely to really need/appreciate it.
I've given things away for free on craigslist, had people claim
interest, then when it comes time to come get it, I hear: boy, you are
far away; can you drive 10-15 miles to make it easier for me?
I'm not
going to give it away but am willing to take a "reasonable" offer.
Otherwise, it goes to the dump.
Hmm - I'm struggling with the concept of "I want money for it or I'm
going to throw it away for nothing". 
22 Jan
22 Jan
6:31 a.m.
I've given things away for free on craigslist, had people claim interest,
then when it comes time to come get it, I hear: boy, you are far away; can
you drive 10-15 miles to make it easier for me?
Almost any computer equipment posted on your local Freecycle list goes
away in hours. and they pick it up. At least I would.
In fact I would drive a hundred miles to get a free Seequa Chameleon.
Or two hundred miles if it was on my route.
I have a regular route, Astoria to Eugene, I do twice a month and am
on several Freecycle lists as a result.
I used one 20 years ago. And may have still have an OS.
However it would have to be free. I would not want to pay shipping.
Paxton
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Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
USA
11:42 a.m.
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 22:31 -0800, Paxton Hoag wrote:
As I said in my original post, I ain't giving it away. It's 25 miles
each way to the nearest shipping office from my home and I am not going
to go to the time, trouble, and expense of shipping this thing to
someone that's too cheap to pay a fair price.
I've had several people from this list ask me to "give" the machine to
them because they happen to have some special attachment. Sorry folks
but, unless I get a "reasonable" offer, it's going in the dumpster.
I'm also tired of the old argument about preserving technology or the
historical significance of a particular machine. BS... That argument
always comes from the same group of people who expect to get things for
free.
Frankly, at this point, I don't know what a reasonable offer is. But I
can assure you my time and effort is worth more than a few pennies.
I expect to offer some more things on this list in the near future and
just want to let everyone know in advance - I AM NOT GIVING ANYTHING
AWAY. If you aren't willing to pay for it, don't respond.
SteveRob
I've given things away for free on craigslist, had people claim interest,
then when it comes time to come get it, I hear: boy, you are far away; can
you drive 10-15 miles to make it easier for me?
Almost any computer equipment posted on your local Freecycle list goes
away in hours. and they pick it up. At least I would.
In fact I would drive a hundred miles to get a free Seequa Chameleon.
Or two hundred miles if it was on my route.
I have a regular route, Astoria to Eugene, I do twice a month and am
on several Freecycle lists as a result.
I used one 20 years ago. And may have still have an OS.
However it would have to be free. I would not want to pay shipping.
Paxton 
9:34 p.m.
On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 06:42 -0500, Steve Robertson wrote:
As I said in my original post, I ain't giving it
away. It's 25 miles
each way to the nearest shipping office from my home and I am not going
to go to the time, trouble, and expense of shipping this thing to
someone that's too cheap to pay a fair price.
I've had several people from this list ask me to "give" the machine to
them because they happen to have some special attachment. Sorry folks
but, unless I get a "reasonable" offer, it's going in the dumpster.
At least one person has made the very reasonable offer of actually
turning up at your place, loading it in their own vehicle themselves,
and taking it away.
How reasonable do you want? If you want to sell it, for cash, then say
so, but don't be a prick about it.
Gordon
9:38 p.m.
Frankly, at this point, I don't know what a
reasonable offer is. But
I can assure you my time and effort is worth more than a few pennies.
Sure, but I suspect there's a terminological mismatch here. There are
a number of people here, including me, to whom "giving away" means
"cover shipping plus a bit over for time, trouble, and materials".
(Exactly what "a bit over" means is, of course, always open to debate
and, usually, negotiation, but the details don't affect the principle.)
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23 Jan
23 Jan
8:25 p.m.
Frankly, at this point, I don't know what a
reasonable offer is. But
I can assure you my time and effort is worth more than a few pennies.
Sure, but I suspect there's a terminological mismatch here. There are
a number of people here, including me, to whom "giving away" means
"cover shipping plus a bit over for time, trouble, and materials".
(Exactly what "a bit over" means is, of course, always open to debate
and, usually, negotiation, but the details don't affect the principle.) 
22 Jan
22 Jan
3:29 p.m.
Jim Battle wrote:
Jules Richardson wrote:
Yeah, I guess the vague threat of it being buried in landfill if someone with
a conscience doesn't pay for it just disagreed with me; I'm perfectly happy
with "I've got some old equipment and I want money in return".
I suspect I was just grumpy yesterday, too :-)
Steve Robertson wrote:
Steve can speak for himself, but my guess is the thinking is like this.
... I'm not
going to give it away but am willing to take a "reasonable" offer.
Otherwise, it goes to the dump.
Hmm - I'm struggling with the concept of "I want money for it or I'm
going to throw it away for nothing". (2) tossing it out takes no time, money, or supplies
Yes, I should give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they haven't
heard of Freecycle :)
Another possible angle is: there are many people who
will take things
for free who don't really need it since it is free. Someone willing to
pay for it is more likely to really need/appreciate it.
That's an interesting one, and not one I'd thought of before! I've known more
collectors who take free (or beer money) items and need/appreciate it than I
have collectors who pay real money for things, but that's only my personal
experience.
I've given things away for free on craigslist, had
people claim
interest, then when it comes time to come get it, I hear: boy, you are
far away; can you drive 10-15 miles to make it easier for me?
The ones that really annoy me are the collectors who do so purely for the
purpose of taking free items and throwing them on ebay. Shame you can't email
ebay a serial number and say "don't let this item ever appear on your
website" ;-)
cheers
Jules
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