Chuck McManis wrote: exactly right and no one will see that you did this except in the history for the one item, which is kept for only a few months. you get get the shaft if a reserve item doesn't sell though because you get nailed with the extra reserve fee. I end auctions of mine all the time because all I want to do is get one bid for the minimum amount posted and move the item rather than get rich on an otherwise useless item that someone could put to good use at a reasonable price. On a few items that did move along better than expected (way high bid) I've even paid the shipping instead of adding it on, even though my final value fee was against the actual price it closed at. the rules there are essentially guidelines, not a way for someone else to tell you how you will do something. If they were eBay wouldn't be where it is today. Anyone want to buy a good used kidney <g>