22 Oct
2009
22 Oct
'09
12:11 p.m.
Cough cough..
Whoever thought a ZX80 would sell for so much.. ?1560
290360191414 is the auction number
Very nice, but at what cost!!
12:25 p.m.
On Thu, October 22, 2009 3:20 pm, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
Ahh, at least I know this is still classiccmp. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Cough cough..
Whoever thought a ZX80 would sell for so much.. ?1560
290360191414 is the auction number
Very nice, but at what cost!!=
He is nuts. Period. 
12:36 p.m.
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:20:19 -0300, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
>Cough cough..
>Whoever thought a ZX80 would sell for so much.. ?1560
>290360191414 is the auction number
>Very nice, but at what cost!!=
He is nuts. Period.
If the 0 feedback winer is rejected Bidder6 will get it for GBP 875.00
one bidding over the second high Bidder9 at GBP 850.00
A third Bidder1 offered GBP 800.00
You say "He is nuts. Period." its more like "They are nuts !"
The other Bob
12:37 p.m.
On 22 Oct 2009, at 20:20, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
So what else would 1500 quid or 2000 bucks for our colonial friends
buy in our hobby these days?
about one hundred ZX81's ?
Rog
Cough cough..
Whoever thought a ZX80 would sell for so much.. ?1560
290360191414 is the auction number
Very nice, but at what cost!!=
He is nuts. Period. 
1:54 p.m.
So what else
would 1500 quid or 2000 bucks for our colonial friends
At todays exchange rate that
is closer to $2500 ...
Even at the GPB 850.00 range it is close to $1500 still a nice IMSI or
Altar 
2:11 p.m.
Roger Pugh wrote:
On 22 Oct 2009, at 20:20, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
So what else would 1500 quid or 2000 bucks for our colonial friends buy
in our hobby these days?
about one hundred ZX81's ?
The price of door stops has gone up I see.
Cough
cough..
Whoever thought a ZX80 would sell for so much.. ?1560
290360191414 is the auction number
Very nice, but at what cost!!=
He is nuts. Period.
Rog
If you import, a nice valve amp for about 2K from china.
A pair of speakers from the US.
Ok, back on topic $1500 sounds like price of a nice CP/M system
about 1985.
23 Oct
23 Oct
8:49 a.m.
On Oct 22, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Ben wrote:
So what else would 1500 quid or 2000 bucks for our colonial
friends buy in our hobby these days?
about one hundred ZX81's ?
The price of door stops has gone up I see.
You're on this list for what reason, exactly?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Cough cough..
Whoever thought a ZX80 would sell for so much.. ?1560
290360191414 is the auction number
Very nice, but at what cost!!=
He is nuts. Period. 
22 Oct
22 Oct
3:34 p.m.
Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
Indeed, the ironic thing is of course that most of those components are
worth not that much at all as the ZX80 is pretty much LSTTL, standard
RAM, CPU etc.
I guess the board and case is rarer though, even so I think about 70,000
ish ZX80s where made so it's actually not that rare at all, though I
guess unbuilt ones are not that common.
One of the things I do have is a bare Jupiter Ace board, which I believe
only cost my wife ?100ish last cristmass, and they are cirtainly rarer.
Now if it had been a working Dragon Beta prototype.........
For those not in the know, only 3 where ever built, and only one is
known to still be working.
Cheers,
Phill.
--
Phill Harvey-Smith, Programmer, Hardware hacker, and general eccentric !
"You can twist perceptions, but reality won't budge" -- Rush.
Cough cough..
Whoever thought a ZX80 would sell for so much.. ?1560
290360191414 is the auction number
Very nice, but at what cost!!=
He is nuts. Period.
10:18 p.m.
New subject: Tek keyboard request
Greetings from Brazil :o)
Maybe someone has a spare keyboard like the one from this auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/G57849-Tektronix-3001-GPX-Logic-Analyzer-Keyboard_W0QQi…
As I said before, I'm looking for parts for the 3001 mainframe from
Tektronix. But maybe the keyboard isn't exclusive to this mainframe ;o) who
knows?
Thanks
Alexandre :)
23 Oct
23 Oct
8:51 a.m.
On Oct 22, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Phill Harvey-Smith wrote:
Indeed, the ironic thing is of course that most of
those components
are worth not that much at all as the ZX80 is pretty much LSTTL,
standard RAM, CPU etc.
The same can be said for most 1970s minicomputers. And what about
all those cheap transistors in a Straight-8? Wow I guess one of
those is only worth about twenty bucks.
I guess the board and case is rarer though, even so I
think about
70,000 ish ZX80s where made so it's actually not that rare at all,
though I guess unbuilt ones are not that common.
ZX80s are approximately as rare as hens' teeth. Go try to find
one. I have. Perhaps you're thinking of ZX81s.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
9:30 a.m.
Dave McGuire wrote:
Well there are currently 3 ZX80s for sale on ebay.co.uk and it's not
that often that there is not at least one up for sale.
On Oct 22, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Phill Harvey-Smith
wrote:
Not having any minicomputer experience I can't comment on this.
Indeed, the ironic thing is of course that most
of those components
are worth not that much at all as the ZX80 is pretty much LSTTL,
standard RAM, CPU etc.
The same can be said for most 1970s minicomputers. And what about all
those cheap transistors in a Straight-8? Wow I guess one of those is
only worth about twenty bucks. I guess the
board and case is rarer though, even so I think about
70,000 ish ZX80s where made so it's actually not that rare at all,
though I guess unbuilt ones are not that common.
ZX80s are approximately as rare as hens' teeth. Go try to find one. I have. Perhaps you're thinking of ZX81s.
Nope I have a ZX80 and a couple of 81s (including an unbuilt kit one).
Though since, from your siggy you are in the US, they probably are much
less common over there, I dunno if Sinclair ever sold them outside the
UK, I know that he had a deal with Timex for the ZX81.
Cheers.
Phill.
--
Phill Harvey-Smith, Programmer, Hardware hacker, and general eccentric !
"You can twist perceptions, but reality won't budge" -- Rush.
9:54 a.m.
On 23 Oct 2009 at 17:30, Phill Harvey-Smith wrote:
Though since, from your siggy you are in the US, they
probably are
much less common over there, I dunno if Sinclair ever sold them
outside the UK, I know that he had a deal with Timex for the ZX81.
They did--I sold a ZX80 to another cctalk-er a couple of years back.
It had a standard NTSC output and 60Hz power supply.
Why anyone would want a cheap piece of plastic like that is beyond my
comprehension. Maybe that's why I'm not a collector.
--Chuck
10:15 a.m.
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:54 -0700, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 23 Oct 2009 at 17:30, Phill Harvey-Smith wrote:
Nostalgia. A TS1000 was the very first computer I ever touched.
I keep mine in a box. And threaten my 12yr old, and wife with with
replacing their computer with it every now and then. :-)
David
Though since, from your siggy you are in the US,
they probably are
much less common over there, I dunno if Sinclair ever sold them
outside the UK, I know that he had a deal with Timex for the ZX81.
They did--I sold a ZX80 to another cctalk-er a couple of years back.
It had a standard NTSC output and 60Hz power supply.
Why anyone would want a cheap piece of plastic like that is beyond my
comprehension. Maybe that's why I'm not a collector.
--Chuck
10:48 a.m.
I think the silly thing is, this ZX80 is only ever going to be a
collectors piece. It will never be used, if it is completed it will
lose 90% of its value. the value of the components are a few pounds
or dollars and you can get 95% of the experience of ownership by
buying a 10 pound/dollar ZX81/TS100 and switching it to FAST mode!
I think ZX80's are overpriced at ?50 let alone ?100 and ?1000. I cant
see them being that rare! Also i have noticed Sinclair QL bits
getting more expensive recently. I'm glad i have way too many of them
already!
I won a nice HP85 on the same auction site two weeks ago for ?27,
bargains are still there to be had!
Madness
Rog
11:22 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Roger Pugh
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:48 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Sinclair ZX80 on Ebay
I think the silly thing is, this ZX80 is only ever going to be a
collectors piece. It will never be used, if it is completed it will
lose 90% of its value. the value of the components are a few pounds
or dollars and you can get 95% of the experience of ownership by
buying a 10 pound/dollar ZX81/TS100 and switching it to FAST mode!
I think ZX80's are overpriced at ?50 let alone ?100 and ?1000. I cant
see them being that rare! Also i have noticed Sinclair QL bits
getting more expensive recently. I'm glad i have way too many of them
already!
I won a nice HP85 on the same auction site two weeks ago for ?27,
bargains are still there to be had!
Madness
Rog
Silly? Is it any sillier than having a 700lb. computer in one's basement, and doing
most of one's work on a laptop on the dining room table? (That's me, by the way:
my VAX 6660 is a beast. And it's not alone in that basement....)
Would I pay that kind of money for a Sinclair ZX80? Uh, no. But I *have* paid that kind
of money for other items that are equally as "useless" as computing devices (at
least compared to my PowerBook or my dual G4 desktops).
Hello, my name is Ian, and I'm a collector. :-)
11:51 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Ian King <IanK at vulcan.com> wrote:
Silly? ?Is it any sillier than having a 700lb.
computer in one's basement, and doing most of one's work on a laptop on the dining
room table? ?(That's me, by the way: my VAX 6660 is a beast. ?And it's not alone
in that basement....)
Are you using your laptop as a terminal emulator? Then, yes, that's silly ;-)
I don't happen to have a 6600, but I know someone (who used to
subscribe to the list; not sure if he still does) a mile from me that
has a 6xxx in his basement (my largest physical machine would be
either an 11/70 or an 11/750, especially if you include expansion
cabinets and disk/tape units).
Would I pay that kind of money for a Sinclair ZX80?
?Uh, no. ?But I *have* paid that kind of money for other items that are equally as
"useless" as computing devices (at least compared to my PowerBook or my dual G4
desktops).
The most expensive computing devices I've purchased over the years
were a 32K PET (new in 1978), an Amiga 3000/16 (new in 1991), a
VAX-11/725 (used in 1988), and a PDP-8/S (venerable by the time I got
it). A few items, like my Amiga 1000 or my first SPARCstation, were
under $1000 to originally buy, but were expanded multiple times at a
few hundred bucks per notch, so became somewhat expensive to keep
current.
The only "frivolous" one from that list would be the PDP-8/S. The
others were current or semi-current when I got them, and were each in
daily use for years.
OTOH, the bulk of my DEC machines were free (or nearly free) to me,
but if I wanted to replace them these days, the total cost would be
prohibitive. Starting over 25 years ago, I was lucky enough to be in
the right place at the right time (over and over ;-) to save PDP-8s,
PDP-11s and VAXen from the crusher.
Hello, my name is Ian, and I'm a collector. ?:-)
*in unison* Hi, Ian!
-ethan
12:07 p.m.
Dave McGuire wrote:
ZX80s are approximately as rare as hens' teeth.
Go try to find one.
I have. Perhaps you're thinking of ZX81s.
Well I was. Was the difference the fact video stopped when the cpu
was not in the idle key press loop?
-Dave
Did not a several years back did they try to re-sell old ZX81's old
stock at the same price? ~ $99 US.
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Ben.
PS. I only use DEAD ones for door stops.
12:11 p.m.
Ben wrote:
Dave McGuire wrote:
^ vendor
ZX80s are approximately as rare as hens'
teeth. Go try to find
one. I have. Perhaps you're thinking of ZX81s.
Well I was. Was the difference the fact video stopped when the cpu
was not in the idle key press loop?
-Dave
Did not a ^several years back did they try to re-sell old ZX81's old stock at the same price? ~ $99 US.
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Ben.
PS. I only use DEAD ones for door stops.
9:17 a.m.
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 16:20 -0300, Alexandre Souza - Listas wrote:
I think the appeal is its an _un-assembled_ kit, complete w/
documentation, and packaging.
I wouldn't think un-assembled kits would be all that commonly available.
(?)
Its more than I'd certainly want to pay, though obviously, if the
un-assembled kits that commonly available, I'll offer 20$ to someone for
one. :-)
David
Cough cough..
Whoever thought a ZX80 would sell for so much.. ?1560
290360191414 is the auction number
Very nice, but at what cost!!=
He is nuts. Period.
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