No, the announcement has been floating about for a while, but they hadn't decided what to do about the non-windows users. It is my understanding you cannot send or receive EMail through MSN without using Outlook Express (also know as the biggest virus propagator known to man). So, when they notified me my account was being moved, I called up and canceled. I'll be here until 31-Oct-01, but after that???? Clint On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Chad Fernandez wrote:

It was thus said that the Great Richard Erlacher once stated: I think it may have more to do with forcing customers that use Windows to use Lookout, Lookout Express or Internet Exploder to check their email (can't use any other email client---it won't work) and blocking off outbound port 25 connections (so you can probably check outside email accounts with anything, but you can't *send* email since that port is blocked). -spc (Isn't that sweet?)

Another thing you might consider, particularly as money is apparently no object, something my neighbor has in place, is a microwave link to (whatever ISP this is). He pays about $100 monthly but has, if I understand him correctly, essentially 250 Mbps (YES, thats Mbps) in either direction. I've no idea how one is supposed to exploit this much bandwidth, but I assume that's for bursts, and the aggregate rate is lower than that. I keep wanting to ask him more about this, but haven't. This includes all the basic services, i.e. mail, news, web access, and a block of static IP addresses. I've been waiting for him to get his system rework done, and he's been working on his automobile rework first ... since he's thinking the coming weather will make commuting to work on his motorcycle unpleasant. (I wonder why he believes that.) The thing to keep in mind is that the DSL via Qwest costs $20 monthly and certainly doesn't benefit MSN at all. If you combine that with the fact most ISP's charge on the order of $20 or so for DSL-connected ISP service, you get a case of Fat Tire every month instead of buying it for someone else. How do you connect to Earthlink & Covad? If you use the phone wiring then it's likely Qwest gets the lion's share of the cost anyway. I don't like 'em either, but it doesn't make sense to pay a monthly fee just to spite Qwest/MSN. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Wolff (VAX collector)" <vaxman(a)qwest.net> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: Re: Falling off the internet is I'd ISP is and anyway.