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Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 07:22:59 -0500
From: John Foust <jfoust at threedee.com>
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At 04:15 AM 5/13/2010, Roger Holmes wrote:
To me a number is a number and that was b......t
but the problem is US has a bit too much influence on broadcasting, you only have to look
at the questions on the UK version of 'who wants to be a millionaire' where they
asked what you would do with a 'brown betty' in a fairly low value question.
Another phrase with a British meaning and a USAian meaning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Betty
I have no problem with the many americanisms in
my life but to me numbers are sacrosanct. Just because a single US journalist made a
mistake in the 1930s should not make us all roll over and play dead on a matter of
principal.
Principal? Are we talking about money again, or values? There's a principle at
stake!
Ok so I make spelling mistakes. I meant principle not principal. English is a language
generally defined by common usage not statute but if we allow that anyone can redefine
some number, any number to mean something different we are on a very slippery slope
leading to mayhem. Just because the numbers are ones which few people used back in the
1930 does not mean that nobody used them, otherwise they would not have existed. We now
have the ludicrous situation that we have to consider when a number was used, which side
of the atlantic it was said, whether it refers to monetary units or some other meaning and
carry round a table in our heads of so if I read a scientific american book written in say
1920 which refers to so many billion atoms then I know it is 10^12 but a similar book
written twenty years later would be 10^9 and if it was written in the UK in 1940 it meant
10^12 but if I read something written in 2000 by a BBC economic journalist about dollars
or pounds or euros it means 10^9 but if the same journalist wrote about the price of a
billion grammes of water he would mean 10^12 according to the BBC rules.
The principle is that numbers are not context sensitive.
Roger.