13 Oct
2012
13 Oct
'12
3:59 a.m.
Its also possible the Manchester University Medical Computing Unit archives will have such
a request. They used both a 7040 And 7090. The also made a number of software requests to
other institutions. The archives are deposited with the UK's National Museum of
Computing. I'm involved with their initial conservation, so this is something I can
check, though there may be a little lead time to do so as its mostly uncatalogued, and not
at all digitised yet.
Are you looking for the compiler, information about its historic distribution and
licensing patterns, or something else?
--Colin
SPC <spedraja at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.
Im' playing actually with diverse emulators for the IBM 709x and the
software available for them (IBSYS and CTSS). Fun and instructive (I'm
using it to play with COBOL and FORTRAN at present).
Now I should like to go one step beyond.
I have doubts about the compatibility but I should like to know if
exists some request for the WATFOR compiler for the IBM 7040 to the
Waterloo University or whoever would be the owner of the rights of
this software..
--
Gracias | Regards
Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Gr??e - Salutations
--
Sergio Pedraja
twitter: @sergio_pedraja
-----
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13 Oct
13 Oct
4:33 a.m.
Hello, Colin. First of all, thanks for your quick answer.
In this stage I am looking for the compiler. At present exists some
valuables 709x emulators, operatives and maintained. With them you can
run a couple of Operating Systems/Monitors (IBSYS and CTSS) plus some
compilers (Fortran, Cobol, and others). And exists documentation in
Bitsavers for all these items.
From the perspective of a professional of computing,
user of Fortran
and devote of History as myself, the effort did in relation with
all
these items during the last years is invaluable.
The access of Watfor binaries to run them inside these emulators,
together with the access to the documentation related with the history
of Watfor from the website of the UK's national Museum of Computing
would be a great project in relation with the History of Computing,
and probably it would demand some attention from part of the
scientific community.
Regards
Sergio
2012/10/13 Colin Eby <colineby at isallthat.com>:
Its also possible the Manchester University Medical
Computing Unit archives will have such a request. They used both a 7040 And 7090. The also
made a number of software requests to other institutions. The archives are deposited with
the UK's National Museum of Computing. I'm involved with their initial
conservation, so this is something I can check, though there may be a little lead time to
do so as its mostly uncatalogued, and not at all digitised yet.
Are you looking for the compiler, information about its historic distribution and
licensing patterns, or something else?
--Colin
SPC <spedraja at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.
Im' playing actually with diverse emulators for the IBM 709x and the
software available for them (IBSYS and CTSS). Fun and instructive (I'm
using it to play with COBOL and FORTRAN at present).
Now I should like to go one step beyond.
I have doubts about the compatibility but I should like to know if
exists some request for the WATFOR compiler for the IBM 7040 to the
Waterloo University or whoever would be the owner of the rights of
this software..
--
Gracias | Regards
Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Gr??e - Salutations
--
Sergio Pedraja
twitter: @sergio_pedraja
-----
No crea todo lo que ve, ni crea que est? vi?ndolo todo
5:49 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Colin Eby
Sent: 13 October 2012 08:59
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: WATFOR for IBM 7040
Its also possible the Manchester University Medical Computing
Unit archives will have such a request. They used both a 7040
And 7090. The also made a number of software requests to
other institutions. The archives are deposited with the UK's
National Museum of Computing. I'm involved with their
initial conservation, so this is something I can check,
though there may be a little lead time to do so as its mostly
uncatalogued, and not at all digitised yet.
Are you looking for the compiler, information about its
historic distribution and licensing patterns, or something else?
--Colin
I didn't see anything that said "Watfor" on it when I carried the tapes,
cards and Manuals from Nobby's loft. From what I could see they only every
used the IBM fortran compilers. You might try the folks on the e-mails
here:-
http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/discussions/permission-to-includ
e-licensed-programs/forthewaterloocompilersprologcprologwwatbolwatfivandwbas
ic
but I don't think Waterloo have any thing archived...
Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
SPC <spedraja at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.
Im' playing actually with diverse emulators for the IBM 709x and the
software available for them (IBSYS and CTSS). Fun and
instructive (I'm
using it to play with COBOL and FORTRAN at
present).
Now I should like to go one step beyond.
I have doubts about the compatibility but I should like to know if
exists some request for the WATFOR compiler for the IBM 7040 to the
Waterloo University or whoever would be the owner of the
rights of this
software..
--
Gracias | Regards
Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Gr??e - Salutations
--
Sergio Pedraja
twitter: @sergio_pedraja
-----
No crea todo lo que ve, ni crea que est? vi?ndolo todo
14 Oct
14 Oct
12:08 p.m.
Sergio,
I have to defer to Dave on this. He knows what was used, and what was
not. I'll keep a watch for it, but if Dave doesn't remember it, then
it's unlikely to be in the Medical Computing Archive. If it's not in
that archive, its unlikely to be in the the TNMoC collection.
However, there are at two known system survivors with some level of
software. Both of them watch this list so they may be able to help. Very
best of luck.
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 10:49 +0100, Dave wrote:
--
-- Colin
-----Original
Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Colin Eby
Sent: 13 October 2012 08:59
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: WATFOR for IBM 7040
Its also possible the Manchester University Medical Computing
Unit archives will have such a request. They used both a 7040
And 7090. The also made a number of software requests to
other institutions. The archives are deposited with the UK's
National Museum of Computing. I'm involved with their
initial conservation, so this is something I can check,
though there may be a little lead time to do so as its mostly
uncatalogued, and not at all digitised yet.
Are you looking for the compiler, information about its
historic distribution and licensing patterns, or something else?
--Colin
I didn't see anything that said "Watfor" on it when I carried the tapes,
cards and Manuals from Nobby's loft. From what I could see they only every
used the IBM fortran compilers. You might try the folks on the e-mails
here:-
http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/discussions/permission-to-includ
e-licensed-programs/forthewaterloocompilersprologcprologwwatbolwatfivandwbas
ic
but I don't think Waterloo have any thing archived...
Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
SPC <spedraja at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.
Im' playing actually with diverse emulators for the IBM 709x and the
software available for them (IBSYS and CTSS). Fun and
instructive (I'm
using it to play with COBOL and FORTRAN at
present).
Now I should like to go one step beyond.
I have doubts about the compatibility but I should like to know if
exists some request for the WATFOR compiler for the IBM 7040 to the
Waterloo University or whoever would be the owner of the
rights of this
software..
--
Gracias | Regards
Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Gr??e - Salutations
--
Sergio Pedraja
twitter: @sergio_pedraja
-----
No crea todo lo que ve, ni crea que est? vi?ndolo todo
12:21 p.m.
Colin,
I don't really "know" what was used, I just carted the boxes down for you
chaps to carry away, and I might have missed a box of WATFOR cards. Hope no
one got injured in carting the stuff back to Bletchly. Wonder how you are
going on with cataloging it. If you want help I might be persuaded to spend
a week end sifting through the cards and listing what there is.
Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Colin Eby
Sent: 14 October 2012 17:08
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: WATFOR for IBM 7040
Sergio,
I have to defer to Dave on this. He knows what was used, and
what was not. I'll keep a watch for it, but if Dave doesn't
remember it, then it's unlikely to be in the Medical
Computing Archive. If it's not in that archive, its unlikely
to be in the the TNMoC collection.
However, there are at two known system survivors with some
level of software. Both of them watch this list so they may
be able to help. Very best of luck.
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 10:49 +0100, Dave wrote:
could see they
--
-- Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Colin Eby
Sent: 13 October 2012 08:59
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: WATFOR for IBM 7040
Its also possible the Manchester University Medical Computing
Unit archives will have such a request. They used both a 7040
And 7090. The also made a number of software requests to
other institutions. The archives are deposited with the UK's
National Museum of Computing. I'm involved with their
initial conservation, so this is something I can check,
though there may be a little lead time to do so as its mostly
uncatalogued, and not at all digitised yet.
Are you looking for the compiler, information about its
historic distribution and licensing patterns, or something else?
--Colin
I didn't see anything that said "Watfor" on it when I carried the
tapes, cards and Manuals from Nobby's loft. From what I only every used the IBM fortran compilers. You
might try
the folks on
the e-mails
here:-
http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/discussions/permission-to-
includ
e-licensed-programs/forthewaterloocompilersprologcprologwwatbo
lwatfivandwbas
ic
but I don't think Waterloo have any thing archived...
Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
> SPC <spedraja at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hello.
> >
> >Im' playing actually with diverse emulators for the IBM 709x and
> >the
> >software available for them (IBSYS and CTSS). Fun and
> instructive (I'm
> >using it to play with COBOL and FORTRAN at present).
> >
> >Now I should like to go one step beyond.
> >
> >I have doubts about the compatibility but I should like
to know if
> >exists some request for the WATFOR
compiler for the IBM
7040 to the
Waterloo University or whoever would be the owner of
the
rights of this
software..
--
Gracias | Regards
Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Gr??e - Salutations
--
Sergio Pedraja
twitter: @sergio_pedraja
-----
No crea todo lo que ve, ni crea que est? vi?ndolo todo
1:03 p.m.
Thank you (both) for the support. As I told you previously, I think
that this would be a great addition to the collection of recovered
items in Classic Computing available at present.
Best wishes for this.
Sergio.
2012/10/14 Colin Eby <colineby at isallthat.com>:
Sergio,
I have to defer to Dave on this. He knows what was used, and what was
not. I'll keep a watch for it, but if Dave doesn't remember it, then
it's unlikely to be in the Medical Computing Archive. If it's not in
that archive, its unlikely to be in the the TNMoC collection.
However, there are at two known system survivors with some level of
software. Both of them watch this list so they may be able to help. Very
best of luck.
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 10:49 +0100, Dave wrote:
--
-- Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Colin Eby
Sent: 13 October 2012 08:59
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: WATFOR for IBM 7040
Its also possible the Manchester University Medical Computing
Unit archives will have such a request. They used both a 7040
And 7090. The also made a number of software requests to
other institutions. The archives are deposited with the UK's
National Museum of Computing. I'm involved with their
initial conservation, so this is something I can check,
though there may be a little lead time to do so as its mostly
uncatalogued, and not at all digitised yet.
Are you looking for the compiler, information about its
historic distribution and licensing patterns, or something else?
--Colin
I didn't see anything that said "Watfor" on it when I carried the tapes,
cards and Manuals from Nobby's loft. From what I could see they only every
used the IBM fortran compilers. You might try the folks on the e-mails
here:-
http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/discussions/permission-to-includ
e-licensed-programs/forthewaterloocompilersprologcprologwwatbolwatfivandwbas
ic
but I don't think Waterloo have any thing archived...
Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
SPC <spedraja at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello.
Im' playing actually with diverse emulators for the IBM 709x and the
software available for them (IBSYS and CTSS). Fun and
instructive (I'm
using it to play with COBOL and FORTRAN at
present).
Now I should like to go one step beyond.
I have doubts about the compatibility but I should like to know if
exists some request for the WATFOR compiler for the IBM 7040 to the
Waterloo University or whoever would be the owner of the
rights of this
software..
--
Gracias | Regards
Saludos - Greetings - Freundliche Gr??e - Salutations
--
Sergio Pedraja
twitter: @sergio_pedraja
-----
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