On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Tony Duell wrote: Because 8 years ago this hobby was at a level that is a small fraction of its current state. Way more people are cognizant today of the importance of celebrating computer history than 8 years ago. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 07:48:49PM -0500, Scott Stevens wrote: Hmm... I don't have too many of those regrets... My first "vintage" machine was a $35 PDP-8/L in 1982. At the time, all I had at home was a 32K PET and a Quest Elf (.25K ;-) It was joined soon after by a brand-spanking new C-64 (on loan from my employer). (Yes... I still have all of those machines and they still all work, except for that C-64 which was replaced in warranty). I was not running Windows in 1994. My daily-use box was an Amiga attached to the outside world via UUCP, picking up mail and a partial Usenet feed; my server was an $800 SPARC 1 to which I added 32MB of RAM and a 1.8GB disk, running SunOS 4.1. I was stripping DOS boxes for 4MB SIMMs for my Sun! I was also running a business at home that used VAXen and PDP-11s (providing support for former customers of Software Results). I didn't fire them up every day, but set-up and ready to turn on were a uVAX-I, uVAX-II, an 11/03, an 11/04, 11/23, and a VAX 8200/8300 (depending if I loaded the second CPU or not). The 11/750 was in storage. *snif* But, I do understand your lament... many of my friends were squarely on the DOS/Windows track at the time (most of them have at least migrated to Linux, part-time). I'm sure they, too, have regrets of interesting machines that passed them by. Since I got my start as a kid in the 1970s, I guess I always saw the stuff that flowed out of Redmond as an abberation, not as the be-all-end-all of computing. I know lots of people only slightly younger than I (37) that have absolutely no clue that there's all this stuff that has *nothing* to do with Windows. -ethan -- Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather at 08-Apr-2004 02:21 Z South Pole Station PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -56.5 F (-49.2 C) Windchill -92.7 F (-69.3 C) APO AP 96598 Wind 9 kts Grid 047 Barometer 669.6 mb (11022. ft) Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html

Chandra Bajpai wrote: Display, yes : Deutsche Museum in Munich has a 360/20 (does that count?) Emulators : search Google for Hercules Emulator. You can also get the source to OS/360 complete with instructions on how to build it. Several other OS are available in binary only form. We recently found a private collector here in France with a truly marvelous collection of old iron including a couple of 360's. We plan on restoring his 360/40 sometime in the next 12 months and it should be on display (before, during and after restoration) in Paris sometime soon. More details when I can release then ;-) -- Hans P