At 09:51 PM 1/29/98 -0600, you wrote: Hmmm.. There's Kaplan's on Market about 6th; They do mostly army-surplus-esque camping gear and some uniforms and tenner shoes. There's another one about between 7th & 8th that (last time I was in) seems to cater only to the bigger-is-better-in-knives-and-forget-about-quality crowd. (They're actually probably just about right above me as I type this!) There used to be a really good one on Mission (one block south) between 7th & 8th, but they went out of business in the early 80's. I don't know of any *real* military surplus stores around SF anymore; though you'd think there would be some, what with Mare Island Naval ShipYard, Treasure Island, Alameda (Nuclear Wessels!), The Presidio, etc. There are a few electronics surplus stores around, especially down in the (silicon) valley. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/