21 Oct
2004
21 Oct
'04
10:22 a.m.
I believe you have to have the VPC extensions for the
OS, and that MS-DOS
isn't a supported OS under VPC7. I bypass this by having a virtual D: Drive
for DOS and Win98, and booting the Win98 system when I need to copy files
from the Mac to DOS. I could do it under WinXP, but that would interrupt
what I have running there, and it takes a lot longer for XP to boot (or
shutdown).
Yes, I do believe VPC came with drivers to do it under DOS.
Gee, and Connectix swore that MS was not going to bastardize VPC. The
first official MS release and suddenly they don't support old MS
operating systems. What else do they conviently not support?
I am curious if the old VPC drivers would work with the new version.
Maybe all they did was stop releasing the driver set. Do you have an
older version of VPC? I have the 2.0 CD here and it comes with a VPC
drive file that contains DOS drivers for folder sharing, CD access, and
S3 video drivers for Win3.1. Alas, the file is 20 MB so a little big to
email to you (I could stick it on an FTP site if you want). I have NO
idea if these drivers would work with VPC 7 or not.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
21 Oct
21 Oct
11:02 a.m.
Yes, I do believe VPC came with drivers to do it under
DOS.
Gee, and Connectix swore that MS was not going to bastardize VPC. The
first official MS release and suddenly they don't support old MS
operating systems.
I know :^( I think they only support old MS OS's that are still under
active support.
What else do they conviently not support?
Well, from what I've been able to find out, at least with VPC6 QNX would
work. I can't get it to work with the emulated S3 card. What really got me
was that the Knoppix Linux CD I have wouldn't work either. I really need to
find a version of Linux that it likes, as I have a couple Linux only apps I
want to run.
I've yet to try OS/2 3.0 or OPENSTEP 4.2, both of which I think should work.
In case anyone is wondering, yes, I'm trying to get all the old OS's I've
run over the years running under VPC :^) Of course who knows if I can find
all the software I want to get up and running, or how many dead floppies I
have.
I am curious if the old VPC drivers would work with
the new version.
Maybe all they did was stop releasing the driver set. Do you have an
older version of VPC? I have the 2.0 CD here and it comes with a VPC
drive file that contains DOS drivers for folder sharing, CD access, and
S3 video drivers for Win3.1. Alas, the file is 20 MB so a little big to
email to you (I could stick it on an FTP site if you want). I have NO
idea if these drivers would work with VPC 7 or not.
I'll have to dig out my VPC3 and VPC4 CD's, but based on the upgrade from V3
to V4 I'm pretty sure the software is specific the version of VPC you're
running.
Zane
11:07 a.m.
Rumor has it that chris may have mentioned these words:
Gee, and Connectix swore that MS was not going to
bastardize VPC. The
first official MS release and suddenly they don't support old MS
operating systems. What else do they conviently not support?
I'm not sure about VPC7, but M$VPC 2004 (Winders) supports:
MS-DOS
Win95/98/ME/
NT workstation / 2K / XP
OS/2
NT Server / 2K Server / 2K3 Server
... and the ubiquitous ...
"Other"
Which I've used to run both RedHat 9 and LinuxFromScratch, and I can tell
you that despite Linux not being "supported" it runs better than Win98
under it!
Oh Shit! Now I'm gonna get flamed to holy Hades because this is offtopic!!!
Ahhhhhh!!!
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
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11:42 a.m.
I'm not sure about VPC7, but M$VPC 2004 (Winders)
supports:
MS-DOS
Win95/98/ME/
NT workstation / 2K / XP
OS/2
NT Server / 2K Server / 2K3 Server
... and the ubiquitous ...
"Other"
By supports, are these what it specifically *claims* to support? I'm pretty
sure VPC7 doesn't actually claim to support all of these, I think there are
about 5 supported OS's. Usually I go with "Other" :^)
Which I've used to run both RedHat 9 and
LinuxFromScratch, and I can tell
you that despite Linux not being "supported" it runs better than Win98
under it!
Win98 was a B**** to install, but once I got the install to work (blew up
the first try), it seems OK, and is definitely faster than XP Pro SP2. The
frightening thing is I have one Windows app that runs faster on VPC7 under
XP than a native version does on Mac OS X (but that's a seriously extreme
example).
Oh Shit! Now I'm gonna get flamed to holy Hades
because this is offtopic!!!
Ahhhhhh!!!
But the thread is technically on-topic because I'm trying to run "classic"
OS's. OK, I just called a MS OS, "Classic", excuse me while I go wash my
mouth out with soap, and find someone to use a horse whip on me!
Personally I think VPC is a great tool for the the Classic Computer
hobbyist. It lets me run a lot of old OS's on the same box. Some of the
software I've fired up the last couple days, I've not run in 10+ years.
Zane
1:45 p.m.
Rumor has it that Zane H. Healy may have mentioned these words:
If you mean you can select each of those through a drop-down box, yes. The
install also includes a "Virtual Machines Additions" which gives MS OSs
extra functionality in the emulator, and this includes MS-DOS. It even
gives the emulator access to a USB floppy drive invisibly, although in a
Win98SE dosbox doing a "diskcopy a: a:" didn't work correctly, prolly a
timing issue.
Also, as I mentioned above, this is a Winders environment, so I'm sure M$
doesn't work nearly as hard on the Mac side of the pond...
Sorry, I live too far away... :-/ ( ;^> )
I'm not
sure about VPC7, but M$VPC 2004 (Winders) supports:
MS-DOS
Win95/98/ME/
NT workstation / 2K / XP
OS/2
NT Server / 2K Server / 2K3 Server
... and the ubiquitous ...
"Other"
By supports, are these what it specifically *claims* to support? Oh Shit! Now
I'm gonna get flamed to holy Hades because this is
offtopic!!!
Ahhhhhh!!!
But the thread is technically on-topic because I'm trying to run "classic"
OS's. OK, I just called a MS OS, "Classic", excuse me while I go wash my
mouth out with soap, and find someone to use a horse whip on me! Personally I think VPC is a great tool for the the
Classic Computer
hobbyist. It lets me run a lot of old OS's on the same box. Some of the
software I've fired up the last couple days, I've not run in 10+ years.
It would also be good for running software for interfacing Classic machines
with programs/machines that would not otherwise be able to run them. Some
proggies for the Model 100/102/200 were like that, there were some that
wouldn't run on anything faster than a 486 or newer than MS-DOS 6.
If you could limit the priority of the emulator (if they're speed
dependent), you'd have a chance of running those programs again... If
they're just OS dependent, then you're golden -- one wouldn't need to keep
older (but still uninteresting, IMHO) PeeCee hardware to do the *fun stuff*
with the classics.
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger | "Bugs of a feather flock together."
sysadmin, Iceberg Computers | Russell Nelson
zmerch(a)30below.com |
2:29 p.m.
I'm not sure about VPC7, but M$VPC 2004 (Winders)
supports:
MS-DOS
Win95/98/ME/
NT workstation / 2K / XP
OS/2
NT Server / 2K Server / 2K3 Server
... and the ubiquitous ...
"Other"
By supports, are these what it specifically *claims* to support?
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