<everybody expects to figure everything out from little hieroglyphs. <That don't work for me -- I read and use a command line. Intuitive? <Intuition is for illiterate women (NOT ALLISON -- don't hit me!) That is sexist.... ;-) I prefer "pets and small children" in place of women in that sentence. As to hitting you, never. I've trained old dogs and I don't hit them either. ;) <Intuition is for illiterate pets and small children. Here's a historical quote.... "Unix is snake oil" Tee shirt seen at the mill: owner remains: Front: The NO circle with the word unix in lower case. the digital logo (the "keys") "Unix the unsystem, never had it never will". Allison