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2018
1 Dec
'18
5:04 p.m.
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter..... does this use NV ram
with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
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SHOULD? SAY? HARD? DRIVE? ? COULD NOT? SEE OVER THE STACK? OF? BOOKS ON THE DESK
In a message dated 12/1/2018 6:04:12 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter..... does this use NV ram
with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
6:53 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
alan
On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg
decwriter..... does this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
6:55 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
BUMMER
It may become a static? display.....
?
Ed#
?
?
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
alan
On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg
decwriter..... does this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
7:04 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from
Mouser work good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that
hard to make.
In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If
the PS on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it
will need it soon. After that will likely be the HDD that needs work.
Almost all of my HDDs that originally shipped with lunchbox systems up
to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working 50-pin SCSI
HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want
to exhibit them as they originally ran).
alan
On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static display.....
Ed#
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
alan
On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor
standimg decwriter.....
does this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
7:08 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
Hi? Alan - The? hard drive is same? size cabinet....? ? with? I? guess a? SCSSI? ?cable.?
I? will have? to? look? at? it? ?further...? ?wonder if starting it? out on? a? variac?
?would? help the capacitors? like? I? do? with the old radio sets? here in the museum?
ed#??
In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at snowmoose.com
writes:
?
Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser work good
enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.
In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS on the IPC
that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it soon. After
that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally shipped
with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working 50-pin
SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want to exhibit
them as they originally ran).
alan
On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static? display.....
?
Ed#
?
?
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
?
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
alan
On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg
decwriter..... does this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
7:15 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a
50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at
the bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the
vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place.
Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it effectively
hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side
to release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Hi? Alan - The? hard drive is same? size cabinet....?
? with? I? guess
a SCSSI? ?cable.? I? will have? to? look? at? it ?further...? ?wonder
if starting it? out on? a? variac ?would? help the capacitors? like?
I? do? with the old radio sets? here in the museum? ed#
In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
aperry at snowmoose.com writes:
Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new
from Mouser work good enough. And the mod to the original battery
isn't that hard to make.
In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies.
If the PS on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped
now, it will need it soon. After that will likely be the HDD that
needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally shipped with
lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for
working 50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more
sense (unless you want to exhibit them as they originally ran).
alan
On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static? display.....
Ed#
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
alan
On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor
standimg
decwriter..... does this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
2 Dec
2 Dec
10:13 a.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
Thanks? for the? info? to? get it? open!? when? back at the? office? ?shall? ?do that..?
?there? may? be? drives in 2 places -? on board and? the off board? one. Always
interesting to? explore? something? ?one? has? only? read? about!
?
Along the? ?same? line? of? UNIX? ?stuff? ?we? have a? COBALT? ?1U Pretty? blue? sever and
a? COBALT? CUBE.? I? do remember? ?lusting? after? one of these? ?1U? COBALT? servers when
they? were? current didn't? have anything in? the? budget? back then? though? for?
one.? I? have? been? told? SUN? eventually ended up? owning COBALT.
?
As? will all that? ?we? ? have? we? are? looking? for? any? ad slicks? ?press kits? ?
posters,? wild artwork? ?for? the? Sun $/40,? ? and the? 2? COBALT? machines..
?
Ed Sharpe archivist? for SMECC? www.smecc.org
?
?
?
?
In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at snowmoose.com
writes:
?
Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin (IDC
connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of the lower half of
the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis,
fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it
effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to
release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Hi? Alan - The? hard drive is same? size cabinet....? ? with? I? guess a? SCSSI? ?cable.?
I? will have? to? look? at? it? ?further...? ?wonder if starting it? out on? a? variac?
?would? help the capacitors? like? I? do? with the old radio sets? here in the museum?
ed#??
In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
aperry at snowmoose.com writes:
?
Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser work good
enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.
In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS on the IPC
that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it soon. After
that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally shipped
with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working 50-pin
SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want to exhibit
them as they originally ran).
alan
On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static? display.....
?
Ed#
?
?
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
?
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
alan
On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg
decwriter..... does this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
11:44 a.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.? The PSU
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
had any of that kind of material.
I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
alan
On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
Thanks? for the? info? to? get it? open!? when? back
at the? office? ?shall? ?do that..? ?there? may? be? drives in 2 places -? on board and?
the off board? one. Always interesting to? explore? something? ?one? has? only? read?
about!
Along the? ?same? line? of? UNIX? ?stuff? ?we? have a? COBALT? ?1U Pretty? blue? sever
and a? COBALT? CUBE.? I? do remember? ?lusting? after? one of these? ?1U? COBALT? servers
when they? were? current didn't? have anything in? the? budget? back then? though?
for? one.? I? have? been? told? SUN? eventually ended up? owning COBALT.
As? will all that? ?we? ? have? we? are? looking? for? any? ad slicks? ?press kits? ?
posters,? wild artwork? ?for? the? Sun $/40,? ? and the? 2? COBALT? machines..
Ed Sharpe archivist? for SMECC? www.smecc.org
In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at
snowmoose.com writes:
Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin (IDC
connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of the lower half of
the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis,
fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it
effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to
release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Hi? Alan - The? hard drive is same? size cabinet....? ? with? I? guess a? SCSSI? ?cable.?
I? will have? to? look? at? it? ?further...? ?wonder if starting it? out on? a? variac?
?would? help the capacitors? like? I? do? with the old radio sets? here in the museum?
ed#
In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
aperry at snowmoose.com writes:
Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser work good
enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.
In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS on the
IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it soon.
After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally
shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working
50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want to
exhibit them as they originally ran).
alan
On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static? display.....
Ed#
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
alan
On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter..... does this use NV
ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
1:43 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
Alan...? ?would? ?love? a? copy? of? the? audio? for? our? archives? here.
Would? like to? see pix? of? your? display too? sounds? neat!
?
Any? other? ?files? text? or? otherwise? welcome? also? ?to? this? address? ?or? drop? us
a? ?dropbox? link
?
The? Sun? workstations? I? never? knew too much? about as? at the time? ?did not? seems?
like? old? history? nor? did? we? use any? so playing catchup!?
?
Thanks in? advance...
?
Ed#
?
?
?
In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.? The PSU
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
had any of that kind of material.
I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
alan
On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
Thanks? for the? info? to? get it? open!? when? back
at the? office? ?shall? ?do that..? ?there? may? be? drives in 2 places -? on board and?
the off board? one. Always interesting to? explore? something? ?one? has? only? read?
about!
Along the? ?same? line? of? UNIX? ?stuff? ?we? have a? COBALT? ?1U Pretty? blue? sever
and a? COBALT? CUBE.? I? do remember? ?lusting? after? one of these? ?1U? COBALT? servers
when they? were? current didn't? have anything in? the? budget? back then? though?
for? one.? I? have? been? told? SUN? eventually ended up? owning COBALT.
As? will all that? ?we? ? have? we? are? looking? for? any? ad slicks? ?press kits? ?
posters,? wild artwork? ?for? the? Sun $/40,? ? and the? 2? COBALT? machines..
Ed Sharpe archivist? for SMECC? www.smecc.org
In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at
snowmoose.com writes:
Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin (IDC
connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of the lower half of
the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis,
fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it
effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to
release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Hi? Alan - The? hard drive is same? size cabinet....? ? with? I? guess a? SCSSI? ?cable.?
I? will have? to? look? at? it? ?further...? ?wonder if starting it? out on? a? variac?
?would? help the capacitors? like? I? do? with the old radio sets? here in the museum?
ed#
In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
aperry at snowmoose.com writes:
Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser work good
enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.
In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS on the
IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it soon.
After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally
shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working
50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want to
exhibit them as they originally ran).
alan
On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static? display.....
Ed#
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
alan
On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter..... does this use NV
ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
4:49 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
media and I need to find it.
Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7
The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.
One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
on the inside to your IPC.
My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.
alan
On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
Alan...? ?would? ?love? a? copy? of? the? audio? for?
our? archives? here.
Would? like to? see pix? of? your? display too? sounds? neat!
Any? other? ?files? text? or? otherwise? welcome? also? ?to? this? address? ?or? drop? us
a? ?dropbox? link
The? Sun? workstations? I? never? knew too much? about as? at the time? ?did not? seems?
like? old? history? nor? did? we? use any? so playing catchup!
Thanks in? advance...
Ed#
In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.? The PSU
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
had any of that kind of material.
I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
alan
On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Thanks? for the? info? to? get it? open!? when? back at the? office? ?shall? ?do
that..? ?there? may? be? drives in 2 places -? on board and? the off board? one. Always
interesting to? explore? something? ?one? has? only? read? about!
>
>
>
> Along the? ?same? line? of? UNIX? ?stuff? ?we? have a? COBALT? ?1U Pretty? blue?
sever and a? COBALT? CUBE.? I? do remember? ?lusting? after? one of these? ?1U? COBALT?
servers when they? were? current didn't? have anything in? the? budget? back then?
though? for? one.? I? have? been? told? SUN? eventually ended up? owning COBALT.
>
> As? will all that? ?we? ? have? we? are? looking? for? any? ad slicks? ?press kits? ?
posters,? wild artwork? ?for? the? Sun $/40,? ? and the? 2? COBALT? machines..
>
> Ed Sharpe archivist? for SMECC? www.smecc.org
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at
snowmoose.com writes:
>
>
> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin (IDC
connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of the lower half of
the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis,
fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it
effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to
release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
>
> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> Hi? Alan - The? hard drive is same? size cabinet....? ? with? I? guess a? SCSSI?
?cable.? I? will have? to? look? at? it? ?further...? ?wonder if starting it? out on? a?
variac? ?would? help the capacitors? like? I? do? with the old radio sets? here in the
museum? ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> aperry at snowmoose.com writes:
>
> Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser work
good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.
>
> In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS on
the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it soon.
After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally
shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working
50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want to
exhibit them as they originally ran).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> BUMMER
> It may become a static? display.....
>
> Ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
>
> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
>
> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter..... does this use
NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>>
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
3 Dec
3 Dec
7:33 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
Very Nice collection!? ? Yes? have to love that? laptop. Did not know? SUN made one. or?
I? guess a third? party? put the? Sun? goodies in a case of their? design?? either way?
?NEAT!
?
Seeing? ?a? nice? run? of? systems like this in wonderful condition? is? great!
?
?
Ed#
?
In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
media and I need to find it.
Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7
The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.
One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
on the inside to your IPC.
My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.
alan
On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
Alan...? ?would? ?love? a? copy? of? the? audio? for?
our? archives? here.
Would? like to? see pix? of? your? display too? sounds? neat!
Any? other? ?files? text? or? otherwise? welcome? also? ?to? this? address? ?or? drop? us
a? ?dropbox? link
The? Sun? workstations? I? never? knew too much? about as? at the time? ?did not? seems?
like? old? history? nor? did? we? use any? so playing catchup!
Thanks in? advance...
Ed#
In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.? The PSU
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
had any of that kind of material.
I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
alan
On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Thanks? for the? info? to? get it? open!? when? back at the? office? ?shall? ?do
that..? ?there? may? be? drives in 2 places -? on board and? the off board? one. Always
interesting to? explore? something? ?one? has? only? read? about!
>
>
>
> Along the? ?same? line? of? UNIX? ?stuff? ?we? have a? COBALT? ?1U Pretty? blue?
sever and a? COBALT? CUBE.? I? do remember? ?lusting? after? one of these? ?1U? COBALT?
servers when they? were? current didn't? have anything in? the? budget? back then?
though? for? one.? I? have? been? told? SUN? eventually ended up? owning COBALT.
>
> As? will all that? ?we? ? have? we? are? looking? for? any? ad slicks? ?press kits? ?
posters,? wild artwork? ?for? the? Sun $/40,? ? and the? 2? COBALT? machines..
>
> Ed Sharpe archivist? for SMECC? www.smecc.org
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at
snowmoose.com writes:
>
>
> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin (IDC
connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of the lower half of
the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis,
fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it
effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to
release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
>
> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> Hi? Alan - The? hard drive is same? size cabinet....? ? with? I? guess a? SCSSI?
?cable.? I? will have? to? look? at? it? ?further...? ?wonder if starting it? out on? a?
variac? ?would? help the capacitors? like? I? do? with the old radio sets? here in the
museum? ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> aperry at snowmoose.com writes:
>
> Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser work
good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.
>
> In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS on
the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it soon.
After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally
shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working
50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want to
exhibit them as they originally ran).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> BUMMER
> It may become a static? display.....
>
> Ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
>
> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
>
> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter..... does this use
NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>>
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
8:45 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They
eventually merged with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops
(SPARCbooks). As someone else mentioned, there were different Britelite
models based on the various Sun lunchbox system boards. When I had my
Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone told me that they recognized
the case as something used in another laptop.
Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the
SPARCstation Voyager.
On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Very Nice collection! Yes? have to love that? laptop.
Did not know?
SUN made one. or? I? guess a third? party? put the? Sun? goodies in a
case of their? design?? either way? ?NEAT!
Seeing? ?a? nice? run of? systems like this in wonderful condition?
is? great!
Ed#
In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
media and I need to find it.
Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7
The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.
One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
on the inside to your IPC.
My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.
alan
On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
Alan...? ?would? ?love? a? copy? of? the? audio?
for? our archives?
here.
Would? like to? see pix? of? your? display too? sounds neat!
Any? other? ?files? text? or? otherwise? welcome? also ?to? this?
address? ?or?
drop? us a? ?dropbox? link
The? Sun? workstations? I? never? knew too much? about as at the
time? ?did not?
seems? like? old? history? nor? did? we use any? so
playing catchup!
Thanks in? advance...
Ed#
In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at
classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> writes:
There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.? The PSU
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
had any of that kind of material.
I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
alan
On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Thanks? for the? info? to? get it? open!? when? back at the?
office? ?shall?
?do that..? ?there? may? be? drives in 2 places -? on
board and? the off board? one. Always interesting to? explore?
something? ?one? has? only? read? about!
>
>
>
> Along the? ?same? line? of? UNIX? ?stuff? ?we? have a COBALT? ?1U
Pretty?
blue? sever and a? COBALT? CUBE.? I? do remember? ?lusting?
after? one of these? ?1U? COBALT? servers when they? were? current
didn't? have anything in? the? budget back then? though? for? one.? I?
have? been? told? SUN eventually ended up? owning COBALT.
>
> As? will all that? ?we? ? have? we? are? looking? for any? ad
slicks? ?press
kits? ? posters,? wild artwork? ?for the? Sun $/40,? ?
and the? 2? COBALT? machines..
>
> Ed Sharpe archivist? for SMECC www.smecc.org <http://www.smecc.org>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
aperry at
snowmoose.com <mailto:aperry at snowmoose.com> writes:
>
>
> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There
is a 50-pin
(IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system
board at the bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis
splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly
obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom,
it effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple
buttons on the side to release and sometimes a security cable bit to
remove (phillips screw).
>
> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> Hi? Alan - The? hard drive is same? size cabinet.... with? I? guess
a? SCSSI?
?cable.? I? will have? to? look? at it? ?further...? ?wonder
if starting it? out on? a? variac ?would? help the capacitors? like?
I? do? with the old radio sets? here in the museum? ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> aperry at snowmoose.com <mailto:aperry at snowmoose.com> writes:
>
> Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new
from
Mouser work good enough. And the mod to the original battery
isn't that hard to make.
>
> In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power
supplies. If the
PS on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be
re'capped now, it will need it soon. After that will likely be the HDD
that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally shipped with
lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for
working 50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more
sense (unless you want to exhibit them as they originally ran).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> BUMMER
> It may become a static? display.....
>
> Ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> writes:
>
> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
>
> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg
decwriter..... does
this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>>
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
4 Dec
4 Dec
8:33 a.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a
portable called the
SPARCstation Voyager.
I own a Voyager (Can bring it to the next VCF East if needed.) I have been
looking for the padded bag that goes with it for a long time. Any leads
appreciated!
- Ethan
9:05 a.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
https://janit.iki.fi/docs/SPARCstationVoyagerJTF.pdf
This? ?document shows? some? ?data? on? this? ?unit.? It is? like the? design? of?
today's? ALL IN ONE? ?computers? offering an uncluttered? ?footprint on the? ?desk?
top.? ?Never saw? one of these? either in person!
Another NEAT? one!? ?Ed#
?
?
In a message dated 12/3/2018 9:45:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at snowmoose.com
writes:
?
A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They eventually merged with
Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops (SPARCbooks). As someone else mentioned, there
were different Britelite models based on the various Sun lunchbox system boards. When I
had my Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone told me that they recognized the case as
something used in another laptop.
Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the SPARCstation
Voyager.
On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Very Nice collection!? ? Yes? have to love that? laptop. Did not know? SUN made one. or?
I? guess a third? party? put the? Sun? goodies in a case of their? design?? either way?
?NEAT!
?
Seeing? ?a? nice? run? of? systems like this in wonderful condition? is? great!
?
?
Ed#
?
In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
?
I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
media and I need to find it.
Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7
The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.
One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
on the inside to your IPC.
My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.
alan
On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
Alan...? ?would? ?love? a? copy? of? the? audio? for?
our? archives? here.
Would? like to? see pix? of? your? display too? sounds? neat!
Any? other? ?files? text? or? otherwise? welcome? also? ?to? this? address? ?or? drop? us
a? ?dropbox? link
The? Sun? workstations? I? never? knew too much? about as? at the time? ?did not? seems?
like? old? history? nor? did? we? use any? so playing catchup!
Thanks in? advance...
Ed#
In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis.? The PSU
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
had any of that kind of material.
I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
alan
On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Thanks? for the? info? to? get it? open!? when? back at the? office? ?shall? ?do
that..? ?there? may? be? drives in 2 places -? on board and? the off board? one. Always
interesting to? explore? something? ?one? has? only? read? about!
>
>
>
> Along the? ?same? line? of? UNIX? ?stuff? ?we? have a? COBALT? ?1U Pretty? blue?
sever and a? COBALT? CUBE.? I? do remember? ?lusting? after? one of these? ?1U? COBALT?
servers when they? were? current didn't? have anything in? the? budget? back then?
though? for? one.? I? have? been? told? SUN? eventually ended up? owning COBALT.
>
> As? will all that? ?we? ? have? we? are? looking? for? any? ad slicks? ?press kits? ?
posters,? wild artwork? ?for? the? Sun $/40,? ? and the? 2? COBALT? machines..
>
> Ed Sharpe archivist? for SMECC? www.smecc.org
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at
snowmoose.com writes:
>
>
> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin (IDC
connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of the lower half of
the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis,
fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it
effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to
release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
>
> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> Hi? Alan - The? hard drive is same? size cabinet....? ? with? I? guess a? SCSSI?
?cable.? I? will have? to? look? at? it? ?further...? ?wonder if starting it? out on? a?
variac? ?would? help the capacitors? like? I? do? with the old radio sets? here in the
museum? ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> aperry at snowmoose.com writes:
>
> Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser work
good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.
>
> In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS on
the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it soon.
After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally
shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working
50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want to
exhibit them as they originally ran).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> BUMMER
> It may become a static? display.....
>
> Ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
>
> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
>
> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter..... does this use
NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>>
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
9:15 a.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
There are some sparcstation voyagers for sale on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WORKING-Rare-SUN-Voyager-SPARCstation-Model-146/13…
Wayne
On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:05 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
https://janit.iki.fi/docs/SPARCstationVoyagerJTF.pdf
This document shows some data on this unit. It is like the design of
today's ALL IN ONE computers offering an uncluttered footprint on the desk
top. Never saw one of these either in person!
Another NEAT one! Ed#
In a message dated 12/3/2018 9:45:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at
snowmoose.com writes:
A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They eventually merged
with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops (SPARCbooks). As someone else mentioned,
there were different Britelite models based on the various Sun lunchbox system boards.
When I had my Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone told me that they recognized the
case as something used in another laptop.
Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the SPARCstation
Voyager.
On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Very Nice collection! Yes have to love that laptop. Did not know SUN made one. or
I guess a third party put the Sun goodies in a case of their design? either way
NEAT!
Seeing a nice run of systems like this in wonderful condition is great!
Ed#
In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
media and I need to find it.
Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7
The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.
One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
on the inside to your IPC.
My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.
alan
On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
Alan... would love a copy of the audio for our archives here.
Would like to see pix of your display too sounds neat!
Any other files text or otherwise welcome also to this address or drop us
a dropbox link
The Sun workstations I never knew too much about as at the time did not seems
like old history nor did we use any so playing catchup!
Thanks in advance...
Ed#
In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis. The PSU
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
had any of that kind of material.
I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
alan
> On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Thanks for the info to get it open! when back at the office shall do
that.. there may be drives in 2 places - on board and the off board one. Always
interesting to explore something one has only read about!
>
>
>
> Along the same line of UNIX stuff we have a COBALT 1U Pretty blue
sever and a COBALT CUBE. I do remember lusting after one of these 1U COBALT
servers when they were current didn't have anything in the budget back then
though for one. I have been told SUN eventually ended up owning COBALT.
>
> As will all that we have we are looking for any ad slicks press kits
posters, wild artwork for the Sun $/40, and the 2 COBALT machines..
>
> Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC www.smecc.org
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at
snowmoose.com writes:
>
>
> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin (IDC
connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of the lower half of
the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis,
fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it
effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to
release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
>
> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> Hi Alan - The hard drive is same size cabinet.... with I guess a SCSSI
cable. I will have to look at it further... wonder if starting it out on a
variac would help the capacitors like I do with the old radio sets here in the
museum ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> aperry at snowmoose.com writes:
>
> Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser work
good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.
>
> In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS on
the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it soon.
After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally
shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working
50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want to
exhibit them as they originally ran).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> BUMMER
> It may become a static display.....
>
> Ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk at classiccmp.org writes:
>
> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
>
> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
>
> alan
>
>> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter..... does this use
NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>>
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
5:03 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
There are also the Fujitsu LeiA SPARC portables. I?ve used OPENSTEP 4.2 on one?
-- Chris
On Dec 3, 2018, at 8:45 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They eventually merged
with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops (SPARCbooks). As someone else mentioned,
there were different Britelite models based on the various Sun lunchbox system boards.
When I had my Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone told me that they recognized the
case as something used in another laptop.
Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the SPARCstation
Voyager.
On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
Very Nice collection! Yes have to love that
laptop. Did not know SUN made one. or I guess a third party put the Sun goodies in
a case of their design? either way NEAT!
Seeing a nice run of systems like this in wonderful condition is great!
Ed#
In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
media and I need to find it.
Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7
The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.
One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
on the inside to your IPC.
My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.
alan
On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
Alan... would love a copy of the audio
for our archives here.
Would like to see pix of your display too sounds neat!
Any other files text or otherwise welcome also to this address or drop us
a dropbox link
The Sun workstations I never knew too much about as at the time did not seems
like old history nor did we use any so playing catchup!
Thanks in advance...
Ed#
In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> writes:
There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis. The PSU
and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front of
that side of the chassis, below the FDD (when the chassis is closed).
I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40), for
PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for press kits, posters, etc. to use
in the exhibit, but could only find text files. I know people who worked
at Sun on the development of those early SPARCstations and none of them
had any of that kind of material.
I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I donated
it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
alan
On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> Thanks for the info to get it open! when back at the office shall do
that.. there may be drives in 2 places - on board and the off board one. Always
interesting to explore something one has only read about!
>
>
>
> Along the same line of UNIX stuff we have a COBALT 1U Pretty blue sever
and a COBALT CUBE. I do remember lusting after one of these 1U COBALT servers
when they were current didn't have anything in the budget back then though for
one. I have been told SUN eventually ended up owning COBALT.
>
> As will all that we have we are looking for any ad slicks press kits
posters, wild artwork for the Sun $/40, and the 2 COBALT machines..
>
> Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC www.smecc.org <http://www.smecc.org>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, aperry at
snowmoose.com <mailto:aperry at snowmoose.com> writes:
>
>
> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is a 50-pin (IDC
connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at the bottom of the lower half of
the chassis. The chassis splits in the vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis,
fairly obvious place. Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it
effectively hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to
release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
>
> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> Hi Alan - The hard drive is same size cabinet.... with I guess a SCSSI cable.
I will have to look at it further... wonder if starting it out on a variac
would help the capacitors like I do with the old radio sets here in the museum ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> aperry at snowmoose.com <mailto:aperry at snowmoose.com> writes:
>
> Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new from Mouser work
good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't that hard to make.
>
> In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power supplies. If the PS on
the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be re'capped now, it will need it soon.
After that will likely be the HDD that needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally
shipped with lunchbox systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working
50-pin SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you want to
exhibit them as they originally ran).
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> BUMMER
> It may become a static display.....
>
> Ed#
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> writes:
>
> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
>
> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
>
> alan
>
> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter..... does this use
NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>>
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
5 Dec
5 Dec
5:31 a.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
I have a Fujitsu Leia2 S-4. Does anyone have a manual for it? (even if it's
Japanese)
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:03 AM Chris Hanson via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
There are also the Fujitsu LeiA SPARC portables. I?ve
used OPENSTEP 4.2 on
one?
-- Chris
On Dec 3, 2018, at 8:45 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
A company called RDI made the Britelite and Powerlite laptops. They
eventually
merged with Tadpole, which made its own SPARC laptops
(SPARCbooks). As someone else mentioned, there were different Britelite
models based on the various Sun lunchbox system boards. When I had my
Britelite IPX on display on VCF, someone told me that they recognized the
case as something used in another laptop.
Sun never made their own laptop, but they made a portable called the
SPARCstation
Voyager.
On 12/3/18 7:33 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> Very Nice collection! Yes have to love that laptop. Did not know SUN
made
one. or I guess a third party put the Sun goodies in a case of
their design? either way NEAT!
>
>
> Seeing a nice run of systems like this in wonderful condition is
great!
>
>
> Ed#
>
> In a message dated 12/2/2018 5:49:49 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
>
> I will have to get back with you on the audio. It is on offline backup
> media and I need to find it.
>
> Here is a link to some photos of the exhibit -
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/7qC8UbEYCeCf9CBo7
>
> The RDI Britelite (laptop) is a SPARCstation IPX system board in a
> laptop chassis. It was in the Day 1 exhibit, but not the Day 2 exhibit
> because the power adapter died on the morning of the second day.
>
> One of the photos is an opened-up SPARCstation LX, which is very similar
> on the inside to your IPC.
>
> My exhibit next year will be on early 90s SPARC clones.
>
> alan
>
> On 12/2/18 1:43 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> > Alan... would love a copy of the audio for our archives
here.
> >
> >
> > Would like to see pix of your display too sounds neat!
> >
> > Any other files text or otherwise welcome also to this
address
or drop us a dropbox link
> >
> > The Sun workstations I never knew too much about as at the
time
did not seems like old history nor did we use any so playing
catchup!
> >
> > Thanks in advance...
> >
> > Ed#
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/2/2018 12:44:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > There is only room for drives in the top half of the chassis. The PSU
> > and an assembly that holds the drives fills the top half. A 3.5"
> > half-height drive fits in one side of the assembly and a 3.5" floppy
> > drive fits in the other. The PSU cables go from the rear to the front
of
> > that side of the chassis, below the FDD
(when the chassis is closed).
> >
> > I did an exhibit on Sun lunchbox systems, including the IPC (4/40),
for
> > PNW VCF earlier this year. I looked for
press kits, posters, etc. to
use
> > in the exhibit, but could only find text
files. I know people who
worked
> > at Sun on the development of those early
SPARCstations and none of
them
> > had any of that kind of material.
> >
> > I had an audio cassette "Introducing the IPC" for Sun sales. I
donated
> > it to CHM this year (but I ripped the audio before I sent it to them).
> >
> > alan
> >
> > On 12/2/18 10:13 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> >> Thanks for the info to get it open! when back at the office
shall do that.. there may be drives in 2 places - on board and
the off board one. Always interesting to explore something one has
only read about!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Along the same line of UNIX stuff we have a COBALT 1U
Pretty blue sever and a COBALT CUBE. I do remember lusting after
one of these 1U COBALT servers when they were current didn't have
anything in the budget back then though for one. I have been told
SUN eventually ended up owning COBALT.
> >>
> >> As will all that we have we are looking for any ad
slicks
press kits posters, wild artwork for the Sun $/40, and
the 2 COBALT machines..
> >>
> >> Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC www.smecc.org <http://www.smecc.org>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:15:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
aperry at snowmoose.com <mailto:aperry at snowmoose.com> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes. It is next to floppy in the upper half of the chassis. There is
a 50-pin (IDC connectors) ribbon cable that goes down to system board at
the bottom of the lower half of the chassis. The chassis splits in the
vertical middle in a, if looking at the chassis, fairly obvious place.
Because of the cables that run from the top to bottom, it effectively
hinges at the front of the chassis. There a couple buttons on the side to
release and sometimes a security cable bit to remove (phillips screw).
> >>
> >> On 12/1/18 7:08 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> >> Hi Alan - The hard drive is same size cabinet.... with I guess
a
SCSSI cable. I will have to look at it further... wonder if
starting it out on a variac would help the capacitors like I do
with the old radio sets here in the museum ed#
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/1/2018 8:04:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> >> aperry at snowmoose.com <mailto:aperry at snowmoose.com> writes:
> >>
> >> Well, as I said, in my experience, the NVRAMs that you can buy new
from Mouser work good enough. And the mod to the original battery isn't
that hard to make.
> >>
> >> In my experience with IPCs, the bigger problem is the power
supplies.
If the PS on the IPC that you have now doesn't need to be
re'capped now, it will need it soon. After that will likely be the HDD that
needs work. Almost all of my HDDs that originally shipped with lunchbox
systems up to the 424 meg (ST1480N) have died. The price for working 50-pin
SCSI HDDs are at a point that SD2SCSI parts make more sense (unless you
want to exhibit them as they originally ran).
> >>
> >> alan
> >>
> >> On 12/1/18 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE wrote:
> >> BUMMER
> >> It may become a static display.....
> >>
> >> Ed#
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> >> cctalk at classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> writes:
> >>
> >> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
> >>
> >> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
> >>
> >> alan
> >>
> >> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> >>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter.....
does this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
>>
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
2 Dec
2 Dec
7:02 a.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
l?r 2018-12-01 klockan 22:08 -0500 skrev ED SHARPE via cctalk:
Hi Alan - The hard drive is same size cabinet....
with I
guess a SCSSI cable. I will have to look at it further...
wonder if starting it out on a variac would help the
capacitors like I do with the old radio sets here in the museum
ed#
Is the hard drive inside a lunchbox separate from the CPU's one ?
The CPU box do as someone else said have space for a halfheight device.
But the PSU is obviously probably in bad shape...
Those things (ie the IPC) had a habit of dying already in 1995....
9:39 a.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
Yes? separate.? ? ?- will? have to? see? who? made it? ?may? be? third? party pr? may? be?
sun?? ?Ed#
In a message dated 12/2/2018 8:02:32 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
?
l?r 2018-12-01 klockan 22:08 -0500 skrev ED SHARPE via cctalk:
Hi Alan - The hard drive is same size cabinet.... with
I
guess a SCSSI cable. I will have to look at it further...
wonder if starting it out on a variac would help the
capacitors like I do with the old radio sets here in the museum
ed#
Is the hard drive inside a lunchbox separate from the CPU's one ?
The CPU box do as someone else said have space for a halfheight device.
But the PSU is obviously probably in bad shape...
Those things (ie the IPC) had a habit of dying already in 1995....
4 Dec
4 Dec
4:56 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
Most Suns of that era don?t need intact NVRAM to run, you can just key in a few lines of
Forth when you start it up (to set its Ethernet address and serial number), then tell it
to boot off network/disk/CD, and it?ll be fine.
-- Chris
On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
BUMMER
It may become a static display.....
Ed#
In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
alan
On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
we were given this and a hard dribe a floor
standimg decwriter..... does this use NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
6:19 p.m.
New subject: sun model 47. code 4/40 does it have the nvram with battery?
OK that is promising!
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 Chris Hanson <cmhanson at eschatologist.net> wrote:
Most Suns of that era don?t need intact NVRAM to run, you can just key in a few lines of
Forth when you start it up (to set its Ethernet address and serial number), then tell it
to boot off network/disk/CD, and it?ll be fine.
-- Chris
On Dec 1, 2018, at 6:55 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> BUMMER
> It may become a static display.....
> Ed#
> In a message dated 12/1/2018 7:53:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk at
classiccmp.org writes:
> A 4/40 is a SPARCstation IPC. It used a M48T02 NVRAM for the IDPROM.
> Yes, one with the dreaded battery.
> alan
> On 12/1/18 5:04 PM, Ed via cctalk wrote:
>> we were given this and a hard dribe a floor standimg decwriter..... does this use
NV ram with dreaded battery? thanks,ed
> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
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