17 Nov
2021
17 Nov
'21
10:53 p.m.
Is anybody able to access these sites? I just get redirected to Google.
Jim
18 Nov
18 Nov
5:20 a.m.
On Thursday (11/18/2021 at 01:53AM -0500), Jim Carpenter via cctalk wrote:
Is anybody able to access these sites? I just get
redirected to Google.
I have not received any email from the controlfreaks mailing list for
over 60 days either. I automatically expire stuff older than 60 days
and the mailbox is totally empty now.
Chris
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5:23 a.m.
On Nov 18, 2021, at 12:53 AM, Jim Carpenter via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Is anybody able to access these sites? I just get redirected to Google.
Jim
Quite simply, Tom got mad, took his ball, and went home. It is my understanding that
everything has been deleted and won?t be restored.
6:22 a.m.
What happened? Looking back at my emails, the list was operating normally
until September 3. Then it just stopped. There were normal discussions
going on. There was no flood of spam. As far as I can tell, nothing occured
that would trigger a rage quit.
Is the software and documentation that was on the site at least archived
elsewhere? Has anybody downloaded it and can maybe upload to archive.org?
Mike
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 8:23 AM Daniel Seagraves via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Nov 18, 2021, at 12:53 AM, Jim Carpenter via
cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Is anybody able to access these sites? I just get redirected to Google.
Jim
Quite simply, Tom got mad, took his ball, and went home. It is my
understanding that everything has been deleted and won?t be restored.
6:32 a.m.
On Nov 18, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Michael Kerpan
<mjkerpan at kerpan.com> wrote:
What happened? Looking back at my emails, the list was operating normally until September
3. Then it just stopped. There were normal discussions going on. There was no flood of
spam. As far as I can tell, nothing occured that would trigger a rage quit.
A news article was posted wherein another party was credited with creating DTCyber and a
screenshot showed that party had removed his advertisements from the software.
The GPL does not have an advertising clause, and he did not have grounds to demand the
advertisement be restored, so he decided it best to delete everything.
6:54 a.m.
And the ones harmed were the people who cared for and supported him, the
guy who stole his material got nothing but promotion.
A very selfish and childish way to handle things.
If you like a site...clone it to your HD, it happens more than you think :(
73 de pu2sex Alexandre
Enviado do meu Tele-Movel
Em qui, 18 de nov de 2021 11:32, Daniel Seagraves via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> escreveu:
On Nov 18, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Michael Kerpan
<mjkerpan at kerpan.com> wrote:
What happened? Looking back at my emails, the list was operating
normally until
September 3. Then it just stopped. There were normal
discussions going on. There was no flood of spam. As far as I can tell,
nothing occured that would trigger a rage quit.
A news article was posted wherein another party was credited with creating
DTCyber and a screenshot showed that party had removed his advertisements
from the software.
The GPL does not have an advertising clause, and he did not have grounds
to demand the advertisement be restored, so he decided it best to delete
everything.
7:08 p.m.
On 11/18/21, Michael Kerpan via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
What happened? Looking back at my emails, the list was
operating normally
until September 3. Then it just stopped. There were normal discussions
going on. There was no flood of spam. As far as I can tell, nothing occured
that would trigger a rage quit.
Is the software and documentation that was on the site at least archived
elsewhere? Has anybody downloaded it and can maybe upload to archive.org?
Mike
I downloaded some of the software and documentation from there a long
time ago and still have it, although I didn't actually scrape the
entire site. I can upload what I've got to archive.org.
The disk image kit of NOS 2.8.7 with CYBIS has been mirrored at
<https://codex.sjzoppi.com/doku.php?id=utilities:start> and most of
the documentation for it is available from the Wayback Machine at
<http://web.archive.org/web/20210421202420/http://www.control-data.info/CybisRelease.html>
8:42 p.m.
On 11/18/21 7:08 PM, Andrew Warkentin via cctalk wrote:
On 11/18/21, Michael Kerpan via cctalk <cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
Have any SCOPE 3.1.6 or 3.3 deadstart images survived? If someone has
an old 7-track deadstart tape, I'll be happy to image it. NOS is too
new for me--I date from the time that it was KRONOS--and before that, MACE.
--Chuck
What happened? Looking back at my emails, the
list was operating normally
until September 3. Then it just stopped. There were normal discussions
going on. There was no flood of spam. As far as I can tell, nothing occured
that would trigger a rage quit.
Is the software and documentation that was on the site at least archived
elsewhere? Has anybody downloaded it and can maybe upload to archive.org?
Mike
I downloaded some of the software and documentation from there a long
time ago and still have it, although I didn't actually scrape the
entire site. I can upload what I've got to archive.org.
The disk image kit of NOS 2.8.7 with CYBIS has been mirrored at
<https://codex.sjzoppi.com/doku.php?id=utilities:start> and most of
the documentation for it is available from the Wayback Machine at
<http://web.archive.org/web/20210421202420/http://www.control-data.info/CybisRelease.html>
10:38 p.m.
On 11/18/21, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Have any SCOPE 3.1.6 or 3.3 deadstart images survived? If someone has
an old 7-track deadstart tape, I'll be happy to image it. NOS is too
new for me--I date from the time that it was KRONOS--and before that, MACE.
--Chuck
I think there was a SCOPE 3.3 deadstart tape that got imaged but I
can't quite remember if it was posted on the wiki. I can't quite
remember what some of the tape images I downloaded actually are (the
names aren't always obvious and I unfortunately didn't organize them
very well). Of the known images I have the closest thing to SCOPE 3.3
would be SCOPE/Hustler, although I'm not sure if the deadstart tape
image works with the disk images.
19 Nov
19 Nov
5:25 a.m.
Hi Andrew,
As the one who discovered Scope 3.0+ source I still have images.
Note this is a build from source not a original image.
Rich
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6:44 a.m.
Some ARPANET hosts were running SCOPE. Is there any ARPANET software
that has been preserved?
6:50 a.m.
There was no internet software in the Update file I found.
Rich
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-cornwell-991076107
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8:11 a.m.
On 11/19/21 5:25 AM, Richard Cornwell via cctalk wrote:
Hi Andrew,
As the one who discovered Scope 3.0+ source I still have images.
Note this is a build from source not a original image.
SCOPE 3.0+ covers an enormous range of distributions. SCOPE 3.1.6 (my
goto source for several years) is miles apart from SCOPE 3.4 (later
rechristened NOS/BE). Even SCOPE 3.3 is significantly different from
SCOPE 3.2.
Pinning down what you actually have would be beneficial to the curious.
Did anyone ever archive Purdue MACE? That was an interesting
predecessor to KRONOS.
(and I won't even discuss the "custom" OSes spun by the Special Systems
Division from the SCOPE base. TCM/RA1 for example.)
--Chuck
2 Dec
2 Dec
6:54 a.m.
I was able to find and archive the CYBIS kit, plus the associated
documentation, as well as binaries and source code for a version of DtCyber
that seem to be from January 2017. I actually have a web server that I
don't use for much, so I'll probably upload it there, as well as pushing
stuff to archive.org.
Mike
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 10:09 PM Andrew Warkentin via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 11/18/21, Michael Kerpan via cctalk <cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
What happened? Looking back at my emails, the
list was operating normally
until September 3. Then it just stopped. There were normal discussions
going on. There was no flood of spam. As far as I can tell, nothing
occured
that would trigger a rage quit.
Is the software and documentation that was on the site at least archived
elsewhere? Has anybody downloaded it and can maybe upload to archive.org
?
Mike
I downloaded some of the software and documentation from there a long
time ago and still have it, although I didn't actually scrape the
entire site. I can upload what I've got to archive.org.
The disk image kit of NOS 2.8.7 with CYBIS has been mirrored at
<https://codex.sjzoppi.com/doku.php?id=utilities:start> and most of
the documentation for it is available from the Wayback Machine at
<
http://web.archive.org/web/20210421202420/http://www.control-data.info/Cybi…
18 Nov
18 Nov
6:24 a.m.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 07:23:40 -0600
Daniel Seagraves via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Maybe. I'm thinking it's possible he's acting on advice of legal
counsel, and the sites will be restored at some point. We'll see.
Thanks, Tom, for DtCyber, GPL'ing it, and for making the sites
available as long as you did.
jbdigriz
On Nov 18,
2021, at 12:53 AM, Jim Carpenter via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Is anybody able to access these sites? I just get redirected to
Google.
Jim
Quite simply, Tom got mad, took his ball, and went home. It is my
understanding that everything has been deleted and won?t be restored.
6:28 a.m.
Why would legal counsel tell him to take the site down? That makes no sense.
Mike
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 9:24 AM James B DiGriz via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 07:23:40 -0600
Daniel Seagraves via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Maybe. I'm thinking it's possible he's acting on advice of legal
counsel, and the sites will be restored at some point. We'll see.
Thanks, Tom, for DtCyber, GPL'ing it, and for making the sites
available as long as you did.
jbdigriz
On Nov
18, 2021, at 12:53 AM, Jim Carpenter via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Is anybody able to access these sites? I just get redirected to
Google.
Jim
Quite simply, Tom got mad, took his ball, and went home. It is my
understanding that everything has been deleted and won?t be restored.
6:09 a.m.
Here's what's been archived for one of the two websites:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/control-data.info
Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W. & T. C. Svc. Co.
http://hammondorganservice.com
Hammond USA warranty service
"Most people don?t have a sense of humor. They think they do, but they don?t."
--Jonathan Winters
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Is anybody able to access these sites? I just get redirected to Google.
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