29 Jan
2008
29 Jan
'08
2:57 p.m.
is there any way to make these visible? I'm trying to
do something funky, and for some reason XP won't
*visualize* the hidden files on a boot disk
(bootdisk.com). I tried unhiding them with attrib, but
it tells me uh uh. What to do? Yes I did change my
folder option to display hidden files, but to no avail.
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31 Jan
31 Jan
7:04 a.m.
From: chrism3667 at yahoo.com
is there any way to make these visible? I'm trying to
do something funky, and for some reason XP won't
*visualize* the hidden files on a boot disk
(bootdisk.com). I tried unhiding them with attrib, but
it tells me uh uh. What to do? Yes I did change my
folder option to display hidden files, but to no avail.
Hi
Have you tried dropping into a DOS window.
If you still can't do anything from the window, install
a older DOS program like XTGOLD. Be careful to set
it up to not read all the directories or it won't run as
XP has too many files.
When I had a problem with a virus, this was the only
way I was able to fix it.
On XP they call it a "command prompt" but it is a DOS
window.
Dwight
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7:31 a.m.
This seems rather contemporary and off-topic. There's Explorer and
what its Folders options are set to show, there's what DOS/CMD knows
in terms of hidden/system bits.
- John
11:39 a.m.
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Chris M wrote:
is there any way to make these visible? I'm trying
to
do something funky, and for some reason XP won't
*visualize* the hidden files on a boot disk
(bootdisk.com). I tried unhiding them with attrib, but
it tells me uh uh. What to do? Yes I did change my
folder option to display hidden files, but to no avail.
Back in the days when those files were on-topic, . . .
IO.SYS and MSDOS.SYS were S_ystem, H_idden, AND R_ead-only.
XP might not let you turn off the Hidden bit unless you also turn off the
System and Read-only bits.
ATTRIB foo -S -H -R
You can floppy boot DOS 7 from Win98, and get a more familiar/cooperative
working environment.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
3:26 p.m.
New subject: never knew DOS system files *weren't* resettable
The subject line should have read "weren't"
resettable. Until I learned better that is...
the only reason I brought up XP was for the fact that
I couldn't see any hidden files no matter what I did
(this experiment if you will was to get DOS onto a
moderately vintage system. Ok it too would probably be
considered off-topic also, but DOS is always on-topic
in my book. And should be in yours too! ;).
Anyway, what I learned was that you could -s -h at
the same time, but weren't allowed to individually -s
a hidden file, nor -h a system file (this are the
command line switches to be used w/ATTRIB obviously).
You could unhide and unsystem at the same time (or
*hide* and *system* a file simulataneously). So...I
managed to get io.sys and msdos.sys to *materialize*
in an XP folder view - this worked for DOS 5.0
(bootdisk.com) but not 6.22. AAMOF the ATTRIB of 6.22
would generate an error - "incorrect DOS version" or
whatever when I tried to change things on it. Maybe
it's hacked up. Maybe my lt is hacked up LOL.
Anyway, all's well that ends well. I got my Fujitsu
Stylistic 1000 to boot. Got DOS onto the compact flash
card to begin with using the HP USB Disk Storage
Format Tool - in, you guessed it, a USB card reader.
You can download it if you look for it.
--- Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Chris M wrote:
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is there any way to make these visible? I'm
trying
to
do something funky, and for some reason XP
won't
*visualize* the hidden files on a boot disk
(bootdisk.com). I tried unhiding them with attrib,
but
it tells me uh uh. What to do? Yes I did change
my
folder option to display hidden files, but to no
avail.
Back in the days when those files were on-topic, . .
.
IO.SYS and MSDOS.SYS were S_ystem, H_idden, AND
R_ead-only.
XP might not let you turn off the Hidden bit unless
you also turn off the
System and Read-only bits.
ATTRIB foo -S -H -R
You can floppy boot DOS 7 from Win98, and get a more
familiar/cooperative
working environment.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
3 Feb
3 Feb
2:17 p.m.
New subject: never knew DOS system files *weren't* resettable
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, Fred Cisin wrote:
XP might not let you turn off the Hidden bit unless
you also turn off
the System and Read-only bits.
ATTRIB foo -S -H -R
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, Chris M wrote:
(bootdisk.com) but not 6.22. AAMOF the ATTRIB of 6.22
would generate an error - "incorrect DOS version" or
whatever when I tried to change things on it. Maybe
it's hacked up. Maybe my lt is hacked up LOL.
THAT's another problem.
The ATTRIB program from 6.22 will NOT run on DOS 5.00, etc.
Each version's programs, including ATTRIB, will NOT run on any other
version, even if the differences would not matter.
In every program file (.COM or .EXE) of every version of DOS since 2.00,
there is a little code similar to:
MOV AH, 30h
INT 21h
CMP AX, xxxx
JNE .....
This was done after people used DOS 1.00 programs (SS) such as CHKDSK,
under DOS 1.10 (DS), and destroyed instead of repairing disks.
You could, of course, find the correct copy of ATTRIB, or edit that code.
Or, you could install SETVER - the "innovative" program that gives DOS the
ability to lie about its age to function 30h INT21h calls.
Anyway, all's well that ends well. I got my
Fujitsu
Stylistic 1000 to boot. Got DOS onto the compact flash
card to begin with using the HP USB Disk Storage
Format Tool - in, you guessed it, a USB card reader.
You can download it if you look for it.
Congratulations!
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
3:02 p.m.
New subject: never knew DOS system files *weren't* resettable
--- Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
<snip snip snip>
the problem is the version that's on the 6.22 disk
won't work w/the remainder of the contents. I had no
problem getting 5.0's attrib to work with it's
contents. Beats me.
Oh and thanks ;)
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